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CITY OF PALM DESERT
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
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MAY 16, 2006
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Randy Guyer convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Excused Absent
Chairman Randy Guyer Vice Chair Julie Munson (LOA)
Vice Chair Terry Schukart (Alternate)
Commissioner Phill Babcock Absent
Commissioner Michael Barnard Commissioner Connor Limont
Commissioner Dan Barnes
Commissioner Roger Dash
Commissioner Gerald Dawson
Commissioner David Garcia (Alternate)
Staff Present:
Robert Spiegel, Council Member
Homer Croy, ACM for Development Services
Janis Steele, Parks & Recreation Services Manager
Jay Niemczak, Parks Maintenance Supervisor
Monica Loredo, Administrative Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING MAY 3, 2006
Minutes of Parks & Recreation Commission of May 3, 2006, were
approved as submitted. Motion moved/seconded by Barnes/Dawson
and carried by an 8-0 vote with Commissioner Limont and Vice Chair
Munson ABSENT (Munson on LOA).
Commissioner Schukart thanked Ms. Loredo for job well done on the
minutes.
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IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Councilman Spiegel congratulated Ms. Peggy Reyes from Desert Sands
Unified School District (DSUSD). She was a recipient of an award for
being one of the nine excellent educators in Riverside County. There were
two other educators that received awards from DSUSD.
V. PRESENTATIONS
A. DESERT SANDS UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
Ms. Steele introduced Ms. Peggy Reyes and Steve Ricci from DSUSD,
and Roger Clarke the architect for the Palm Desert Middle School
modernization.
Ms. Reyes commented that Mr. Richie is the project manager for the
PDMS modernization project. She stated that they first presented the
project to the Parks & Recreation Commission approximately five years
ago. She commented that the District wanted to refresh the Commission
on the project since improvements would be starting soon. Ms. Reyes
introduced Mr. Clarke.
Mr. Clarke displayed a Power Point presentation of the site design of the
PDMS modernization plan. He pointed out that the portables would be
taken out, and a new two-story classroom building (No. 8 of site plan)
would be built. Building No. 7 is a Multi -Purpose Room; there would be a
minor addition to Building No. 1; and some remodeling and reconstruction
inside Buildings No. 1, 5, and 6. In addition, there will be minor
improvements in Buildings 2 and 3. He mentioned field development; the
District will work out any issues on the Rutledge Strip with the City. Mr.
Clarke displayed on the Power Point presentation the timetable for the
construction and phases. He mentioned that field development would
occur during the summer.
Chairman Guyer asked what the triangular shape at the top of the site
plan is. Mr. Clarke responded that it is the existing tot lot.
Ms. Reyes noted that PDMS would have more science classrooms and
labs than is the District's standard.
Mr. Clark briefly explained some of the changes that would be happening
with the modernization.
Ms. Reyes mentioned that she has been having conversations with Ms.
Steele regarding t-ball usage. She stated that once the play fields are
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developed, the District would be able to provide space for the t-ball
program along with backstops.
Mr. Clark stated that work would begin in June. He commented that the
school would be a mess for the next couple of years, but would be an
outstanding project once it is finished.
Ms. Reyes commented that the precise plan would be left with Ms. Steele
for reference. She asked if anyone had any questions.
Councilman Spiegel asked Ms. Reyes to point out on the plan the
Rutledge Strip. Ms. Reyes pointed to the Rutledge Strip on the precise
plan, which is from the well site to the bus stop. She stated the
improvements on Rutledge would be the soccer field and a bus turnout to
improve the flow of traffic. Ms. Reyes also stated that they are proposing
leaving the tot lot due to high usage.
Mr. Clarke noted that they would be keeping most of the trees around the
tot lot.
Chairman Guyer asked where the fencing would be located in relation to
the tot lot. Ms. Reyes responded that the tot lot would be fenced off, but
would be opened after hours similar to the Washington Charter and the
Country Club School joint use agreement.
Chairman Guyer asked how the soccer field would be accessible. Ms.
Reyes replied that there would be some gates added. She was not sure
exactly where the gates would be located.
Councilman Spiegel asked Mr. Rob Ballew, YMCA of the Desert, if he had
any concerns. Mr. Ballew commented that he has communicated with
DSUSD a few times. He stated that the District has requested that the
portable units are removed by July 1. Mr. Ballew asked Ms. Reyes if the
area where the portable units (YMCA Teen Center) are located would be
utilized soon or is it part of Phase I. Ms. Reyes responded that area needs
to be utilized soon for the field work this summer. She stated that they are
working with the school principal to accommodate for the YMCA program,
and would be in touch with Mr. Ballew soon regarding moving the units
and to provide the YMCA with something adjacent to the interim housing.
Mr. Ballew asked Ms. Reyes if the District would be helping the YMCA in
moving the units. Ms. Reyes replied that they would not be helping. They
would provide a space and a contact person. Mr. Ballew thanked the
District. Ms. Reyes commented that the District recognizes that the
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program is very important and would like to see that service continue for
the students.
Mr. Ballew asked Ms. Reyes if in the future she foresees any space that
could be utilized by the YMCA where the Teen Center is located. Ms.
Reyes responded that they could look into it.
Commissioner Babcock asked what the dark area on the plan is. Ms
Reyes responded it is the parking lot off Magnesia Falls. The parking lot
would stay as it is.
Commissioner Babcock asked if people would be able to use the picnic
area during the day. Ms. Reyes responded that people would be able to
use the park and that there would be no restrictions.
Ms. Steele stated the restrooms by the parking lot would remain. The
soccer field area with the track would be ready possibly by September.
Ms. Reyes indicated that it would be ready by October.
Mr. Chris Bash, President of Palm Desert Sports (Youth Sports), asked
until what date would the soccer field not be able to be utilized. The
District responded that probably not until December of 2007. Ms. Reyes
suggested another open area that could be used.
Ms. Reyes asked Mr. Bash when their season starts. He answered that
his season begins at the end of January.
Mr. Bash commented that in the past, the league used Washington
Charter, James Carter, Gerald Ford and Lincoln, but due to lockdowns
and fencing they have not been accessible. He also commented that the
ruts and holes at the schools are a safety liability. Mr. Bash stated that
they would be able to use Lincoln and Carter fields if they were maintained
and the holes were filled in. Ms. Reyes responded that they would look
into the maintenance of the fields, which is handled by different
department.
Councilman Spiegel asked Mr. Bash if they could use Washington Charter
School. Mr. Bash indicated that Washington Charter used to have
backstops years ago, but when the school was redone, the backstops
disappeared. He noted that they could also use Lincoln, but that the holes
are really bad.
Ms. Reyes commented that once the construction materials are removed
at Washington Charter, the District would work on re-establishing the turf
area and reinstall the backstops.
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Mr. Bash mentioned that he has left his number with Mr. Ricci and that he
has been very helpful. He also thanked the School District and the City.
Ms. Reyes noted that she had left some of her business cards with Ms.
Steele in case anyone needs to contact her.
Councilman Spiegel congratulated Ms. Reyes once again and thanked the
District for the presentation.
Chairman Guyer moved to Item A under Reports and Updates until Mr.
Drell arrives.
B. NORTH SPHERE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE - PHIL DRELL
Mr. Drell gave the Commission a copy of a recently approved University
Park Master Site Plan, which includes the parks that were presented to
the Commission approximately six months ago. He stated that University
Park includes low density, medium density (apartment complex),
commercial (hotel, restaurants, shops), and parks. He mentioned that the
City Council approved the Taylor Woodrow Project (Spanish Walk), which
is a residential development next to the university; Walmart is half
completed; Lowe's is open; and he mentioned other projects that are
being built. Mr. Drell mentioned that Palm Spring Unified School District
would be building a school (Grades K through 8) in the north sphere. He
commented that every piece of ground and square foot of dirt is in design
or discussion for development.
Chairman Guyer asked if there were an anticipated figure for the Parks
and Recreation Fees the City would be receiving from the developments.
Mr. Drell replied that the University Park project would not be paying fees
since they are dedicating the land and building the parks. He pointed to
the Taylor Woodrow project on the plan that is paying approximately $1
million in fees.
Chairman Guyer asked if the residents would go to the City or to the
developer if the usage of the parks was incorrect. Mr. Drell responded that
the parks would be public parks. If the residents want to change the parks
they would have to go to the City Council. He noted that once the parks
are completed, they would be public parks. He also noted that Staff is
determining what the facilities are. The parks are being built through the
assessment district for the whole site.
Chairman Guyer asked who would maintain the parks. Mr. Drell replied
that the City would maintain the parks.
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Commissioner Babcock commented that with all the parks that are going
to be built, would the budget for park maintenance have to be increased?
Mr. Drell responded yes. He mentioned that with all the commercial being
built; the City's revenues would increase.
Commissioner Dawson asked when the large green park would be ready.
Mr. Drell responded that it is up to the City. The City is in the process of
purchasing it. The question is, is there going to be money available. He
noted that Freedom Park is going to cost approximately $10 million to
build.
Commissioner Babcock asked how large the park is going to be. Mr. Drell
replied that it would be slightly larger than Freedom Park. The park would
accommodate some of the ball fields that the City is losing on the south
side.
Councilman Spiegel asked Mr. Drell when the Commission should get
involved to plan what would go in the park. Mr. Drell responded that they
could start immediately. Chairman Guyer announced that Commissioner
Barnard has volunteered to head that committee. If anyone is interested in
being part of that committee, please let Commissioner Barnard know.
Mr. Drell commented that the results from the survey would help decide
what goes into the park.
Commissioner Barnes asked where the third golf course is going to be
located. Councilman Spiegel pointed to the large green area on the site
plan (corner of Frank Sinatra and Portola Avenue).
Commissioner Barnes asked how many homes in the north sphere would
be built in the next three years. Mr. Drell replied that it would be
approximately 2000-3000 homes, and it would all be built out in ten years.
He commented that it also depends on the economy.
Commissioner Barnes asked how well the homes between Frank Sinatra
and Monterey are selling. Mr. Drell responded that the homes were first
sold for $350,000.00, and are now selling for $700,000.00. There will be a
point in time where the market is going to level off.
Commissioner Barnes asked if there is affordable housing being built in
the north sphere. Mr. Drell mentioned that the City is working with some of
the developers to provide affordable housing. Another program mentioned
was that the City would provide assistance for the down payment to first-
time homebuyers.
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Commissioner Babcock asked if the developments would be gated. Mr.
Drell responded that they would not be gated because they would have
public parks inside of them. He mentioned that the developments would
have private streets, but there will be a public easement around the parks.
The homeowners' association would be maintaining the streets.
Commissioner Barnes asked if Spanish Walk was on the site plan. Mr.
Drell pointed to the site plan and indicated where it was located.
Commissioner Barnes asked from now to the end of the year, how many
homes would be under construction. Mr. Drell noted that developments
start in phases, but that he thinks there will be approximately 1,000 by the
end of the year.
Chairman Guyer asked Commissioner Barnes where he is trying to go
with his questions. Commissioner Barnes replied that he wants to know
how soon they need to start working on the Regional Park. Mr. Drell
commented that it would take about five years to complete the park
knowing how long it takes to go from drawings to construction.
Mr. Drell pointed out on the site plan some of the high, medium, and low -
density projects are located.
Chairman Guyer commented that it seems that the community park is
situated away from the higher density areas. Mr. Drell stated that there
would be a mix.
Commissioner Barnes asked Mr. Drell if the City of Rancho Mirage is
planning any parks on the west side of Monterey. He responded that he
believes Rancho Mirage is still planning a park in conjunction with the
YMCA.
Commissioner Babcock asked Councilman Spiegel if the City would be
able to negotiate with the Palm Springs Unified School District as the City
currently does with DSUSD. Councilman Spiegel responded that at this
point the City does not have a relationship with the school district.
Commissioner Barnes asked since the school is another district, would
Palm Desert kids be able to attend. Councilman Spiegel replied yes.
The Commission thanked Mr. Drell for his presentation.
VI. NEW BUSINESS - None
VII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None
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VIII. REPORTS AND UPDATES
A. CVRPD SUPPORT TO THE CITY OF PALM DESERT
Ms. Steele gave the Commission a document that explains the RDA Pass
Through's. She noted that Mr. Ford, Coachella Valley Recreation & Park
District (CVRPD), gave the Commission budget information at the last
Commission meeting. She indicated that she has worked very closely with
Mr. Kevin Kalman, CVRPD, to talk about budget numbers. It has been
difficult to separate items out since CVRPD is a district that serves other
cities. Ms. Steele referred to the staff report in the agenda. She noted that
there was a typo on Page14, No. 2 Redevelopment Tax, CVRPD Net
should be $310,157.00, and not $210,157.00. She stated that she could
invite someone from the Redevelopment Agency to come to a
Commission meeting to better explain the Pass Through's if they would
like.
Chairman Guyer had a question regarding the District donating 32 acres
of land as stated on Page 17 under explanations. Mr. Kalman, CVRPD,
stated that his understanding that there was an exchange with Cahuilla
Park and the Community Center that used to be a church.
Mr. Drell affirmed that there was an exchange for Cahuilla Park and that
the City took over the responsibility of taking care of the tennis courts and
maintaining the park. He indicated that he is not sure if it is currently worth
$15 million and believes it is worth considerably less than that.
Chairman Guyer asked if the City built the tennis courts. Mr. Drell replied
that they were already there.
Commissioner Barnard wanted clarification on the two ambassadors for
17 hours a day on page 15 of the agenda packet. Are there two people
working 17 hours a day? Mr. Kalman explained that there are 17 hours a
day of coverage.
Ms. Steele explained that there are two staff persons covering the
opening, closing, and cleaning of the bathrooms in the park. There is also
one person doing park patrol for 17 hours and another staff person
covering the Skate Park for 16 hours.
Commissioner Barnard asked if the City is paying for 17 or 33 hours. Ms.
Steele responded that it is 17 hours for park patrol and 16 hours or the
monitoring of the Skate Park for a total of 49 hours. Mr. Kalman noted that
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Ms. Steele asked the Commission if they had any questions and if there is
a need to have someone from RDA explain the Pass Through's. The
Commission did not have any questions.
Commissioner Dawson thanked Ms. Steele and everyone involved that
helped put the information together. It has been very helpful.
B. PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECT UPDATES
Ms. Steele announced that there is a groundbreaking ceremony
scheduled for Freedom Park on Wednesday, May 24, 2006, at 10:00 a.m.
at the Freedom Park site (enter Liberty Drive). She noted that the City has
already broken ground.
Ms. Steele gave an update on the aquatic center. She reported that Staff
will receive color designs, and she would be setting up a meeting the
Aquatic Center Committee members.
Ms. Steele reported that she should have some preliminary results within
the next two weeks for the Parks and Recreation Needs Assessment
Survey.
Commissioner Barnes commented that he received a survey and that a
deadline to return was given. He asked if she knew what is the date of the
deadline. Ms. Steele responded that she was not sure, but that she could
find out.
Ms. Steele reported that the light re -aiming and replacement at the Soccer
Park and Civic Center would begin May 16.
Chairman Guyer requested Staff to contact the gentleman from Monterey
Country Club to check if he has noticed a difference once the work has
been completed.
Mr. Bash addressed the Commission and commented that when you get
to the top of the hill it is dark the way the lighting was designed. He
believes that the residents that are complaining are getting a glow from
the lights. Mr. Bash also commented that he read in the minutes that
people were complaining about the lights being left on. He feels that the
system is good. He thinks there is no way to have a perfect system to
contact the CVRPD to shut the lights off. He commented that there could
be four games going on at the same time, which all finish at different
times. If games on the north ball fields finish first, the people in the back
could not get out because it is too dark. He suggested for the lighting at
Freedom Park having switches so that the league officials are able to turn
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off the lights as soon a game is done, but on certain fields leave a light on
for safety.
Chairman Guyer asked if the league is done by 9:00 p.m. Mr. Bash
responded that he has never seen the lights on after 9:10 p.m. He noted
that the league does not schedule anything after 6:00 p.m. He voiced the
league's concern with the lighting schedule at Freedom Park. The league
has a problem with the 9:00 p.m. schedule and suggested changing the
schedule to 10:00 p.m. He noted that they are the biggest league in the
valley. He thanked the Commission for their time.
Ms. Steele noted that the City ordinance actually states 10:00 p.m. She
commented that the City is trying to be nice to neighbors by turning them
off at 9:00 p.m. She indicated that Staff would look into the lights staying
on until 9:30 p.m. at Freedom Park.
Mr. Bash had one last comment. He suggested keeping the Legends
Fields honorees dedicated to baseball players. He mentioned that Don
Sutton and Steve Garvey are now residents of Palm Desert. Mr. Bash
stated that he could contact Don Sutton and that he would be more than
happy to be honored.
Ms. Steele reported that the fencing was approved by the City Council the
week before at Homme/Adams Park, and that the work was going to be
coordinated with Public Works.
Mr. Niemczak indicated that in two to three weeks the Public Works
Department was going to go in and remove the palm logs.
Chairman Guyer asked if there is a shutdown date on the Bump and Grind
trail. There was no shutdown date confirmed.
C. FREEDOM PARK GROUNDBREAKING
An update was given under Parks and Recreation Updates.
D. HOVLEY SOCCER PARK RE -LAMP
An update was given under Parks and Recreation Updates
E. MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS
Ms. Steele reported that at one time Staff provided the Commission with
copies of the contract for the maintenance of the parks to show what
services the contractors are providing. She stated that the contracts in the
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agenda packet are out to bid for the Commission's information. The bid
openings are scheduled for May 26, and Staff hopes to have the contracts
approved at the first City Council meeting in June with the new contracts
to begin the first of July. She stated that Mr. Niemczak made some
changes to the contracts, such as increasing the trash pickup.
Commissioner Barnard asked why there are separate contracts. Mr.
Niemczak explained that Landscape Area 5 is the sports fields and
Landscape Area 3 is the parks, which are paid by different accounts.
IX. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Barnes asked Mr. Bash if he had any comments
concerning dogs at the Soccer Park or any ball field. Mr. Bash responded
that they allow their spectators to bring their dogs on a leash and they
have not had a problem. The dogs usually stay around the perimeter and
never really go on the ball fields. He is not sure about the soccer field.
Commissioner Dash commented that he spoke to Mr. Mays the day
before, and that Mr. Mays was going to have someone check (agent?) if
he would be available and get back to him. He mentioned that he has
spoken to a mutual friend that knows him very well, and she is very
aggressive and doubts that Mr. Mays would say no. As soon as he
receives word, he would contact Ms. Steele.
Commissioner Barnes asked if Mr. Mays has a residence in Palm Desert.
Commissioner Dash responded that he has a home at the Springs. He
also thanked Ms. Loredo for researching and providing the necessary
information to describe the program and past nominees to Mr. Mays.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Commissioner Dawson, second by Alternate Vice Chair
Schukart, and unanimous vote of the Commission, Chairman Guyer
adjourned the meeting at 10:01 a.m.
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Monica Loredo, Recording Secretary
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