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PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
MINUTES
JULY 5, 2006
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Randy Guyer convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
IL ROLL CALL
Present:
Excused Absent
Chairman Randy Guyer
Vice Chair Julie Munson (LOA)
Commissioner Dan Barnes
Commissioner Roger Dash
Absent
Commissioner Gerald Dawson
Commissioner Phill Babcock
Commissioner David Garcia (Alt.)
Commissioner Michael Barnard
Commissioner Connor Limont
Alternate Vice Chair Terry Schukart
Staff Present:
Robert Spiegel, Council Member
Janis Steele, Parks & Recreation Services Manager
Jay Niemczak, Parks Maintenance Supervisor
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING JUNE 7, 2006
Minutes of Parks & Recreation Commission of June 7, 2006, were
approved as submitted. Motion moved/seconded by Barnes/Dawson
and carried by a 6-0 vote with Alternate Vice Chair Schukart, Vice
Chair Munson, Commissioners Babcock and Barnard ABSENT.
(Munson on LOA)
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Ms. Nancy Martel indicated that a water fountain at the Civic Center Dog
Park was approved by the Commission approximately over a year and a
half ago, and she was told that it was ordered and delivered. She
mentioned that Mr. Stendell told her that the fountain was somewhere out
in the field, but that Mr. Niemczak could not find a fountain or an order
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receipt. Ms. Martel would like to know if there is going to be a fountain
installed at the Dog Park.
Mr. Niemczak replied that he would double check with the Planning and
Finance Department if a water fountain was ever purchased, if not, he will
order a new one.
Chairman Guyer continued with Reports and Updates.
V. PRESENTATIONS
A. NORTH PALM DESERT BIKE PATH
Ms. Steele stated that Mr. Phil Joy, Public Works Department, was unable
to attend the Commission meeting for the presentation. She reported that
during a Landscape Beautification Committee meeting the Director of
Public Works discussed developing the trail along the railroad tracks, and
that the City Council approved an extra $100,000.00 for the design study.
The plan for the trail is to run from Freedom Park to Cook Street, and
eventually to the new Regional Park on Portola.
Commissioner Dawson asked if the study would only include the area up
to Cook Street. Ms. Steele believes the study would include Portola.
Chairman Guyer suggested incorporating an intermediate bike -type trail in
addition to a paved trail, if there is enough room. Commissioner Dawson
asked for a definition of an intermediate bike trail. Chairman Guyer
responded that he was not sure, but has heard complaints that trails are
either too easy or too hard.
Mr. Niemczak commented that paved trails are for road bikes and dirt
trails are for mountain bikes.
Commissioner Barnes asked if the trail would be "woods looking".
Councilman Spiegel responded that people could travel to Idyllwild.
Commissioner Barnes asked for the approximate cost of the trail. Ms.
Steele responded that Mr. Mark Greenwood, Director of Public Works,
initially estimated it would cost $1,365,000.00 (the City share being
$915,000.00), but it might cost quite a bit more.
Chairman Guyer asked if there is a relationship between the City and
Union Pacific Railroad. Councilman Spiegel responded that the
relationship is very little.
Commissioner Barnes asked what is the situation with Portola going north
to the 1-10 or Dinah Shore. Councilman Spiegel replied that the project is
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in the planning stage to connect to Dinah Shore, and hopes it will be
accomplished by the early part of 2007. The interchange to the highway is
on the drawing board, but is not a priority. He commented that there are
too many other interchanges that are in bad shape in other valley cities.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. TRAIL NAMING
Discussion and recommendation of naming the trail that will
connect the Bump and Grind.
Ms. Steele reported that she was approached and asked if the
Commission would consider naming the trail that would connect to the
Bump and Grind after Mr. Mike Schuler. Mr. Schuler is the person that has
been cutting up the trails all on his own in the valley, and in the City of
Palm Desert. Ms. Steele indicated that the trail to be named is the section
that connects Hopalong Cassidy Trail to the Bump and Grind.
Commissioner Barnes commented that he once recommended several
months ago naming a trail after Councilman Buford Crites, which he
understands has resigned. Councilman Spiegel confirmed that Mr. Crites
has resigned effective July 1. He noted that a road could not be named
after a councilmember until after they are deceased, but that does not
mean a trail cannot be named after a councilmember. The City Council
could take a look at it.
Chairman Guyer felt that a bigger trail should be named after Mr. Crites.
The Commissioners agreed.
Commissioner Dawson moved to recommend to the City Council to
name the section of trail that connects Hopalong Cassidy to the
Bump and Grind after Mr. Mike Schuler. Commissioner Limont
seconded the motion and carried by a 6-0 vote with Alternate Vice
Chair Schukart, Vice Chair Munson, Commissioners Babcock and
Barnard ABSENT. (Munson on LOA)
B. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETINGS
Discussion and recommendation on the second Commission
meeting of the month.
Ms. Steele stated that when she first started with the City, the Commission
had just begun meeting twice a month. The Commission could not meet
on the first and third Wednesdays because the meeting room was not
available on the third Wednesday. She indicated that the room is now
available and wanted to bring it to the Commission's attention. Ms. Steele
felt it would be easier for everyone to meet on the same day of the week.
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Chairman Guyer suggested discussing this item when all Commissioners
are present for their input. Commissioner Limont noted that she is on a
Board that meets on the third Wednesday.
Commissioner Dash asked if Wednesday was the only option. Could the
Commission meet on the first Tuesday and third Tuesday of the month?
Ms. Steele responded that she would check.
VII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None
VIII. REPORTS AND UPDATES
A. DESERT SANDS UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT (DSUSD)
Ms. Steele reported that DSUSD has met with the Commission and City
Staff concerning the renovations being done at the Palm Desert Middle
School, the Rutledge Strip area, and the potential land swap of these
areas. She stated that Ms. Reyes recommended that the City continue to
lease the playground area and Oleson field to the City. Ms. Reyes assured
Staff that Oleson field and the tot lot would remain available. A joint use
agreement is currently being worked on between the City and DSUSD.
Commissioner Dawson asked if the DSUSD could notify the neighbors of
the construction that is being done. Ms. Steele replied that she would
contact DSUSD.
Chairman Guyer asked about the picnic tables being relocated closer to
the tot lot area. Mr. Niemczak responded that the tables are on a concrete
slab and would be difficult to move. He suggested ordering more picnic
tables for the tot lot area.
At 8:55 a.m., Commissioner Limont announced that she had to leave the
meeting. Before leaving Commissioner Limont commented that if the City
has not heard back from the Coachella Valley Recreation & Park District
(CVRPD), her personal feeling as a group is to recommend to the City
Council to continue to move forward with whatever recommendation Staff
and the Commission has. She indicated that it has been a month and
there has been no response from CVRPD.
Chairman Guyer stated that he unintentionally skipped over Oral
Communications and asked if anyone had anything to discuss that was
not on the agenda. (Please see Oral Communications for comments.)
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B. COACHELLA VALLEY RECREATION & PARK DISTRICT
Ms. Steele communicated that the City has not received a response from
CVRPD. Councilman Spiegel commented that Mr. Ford did attend the last
City Council meeting and handed out a copy of their master plan.
Councilman Spiegel asked Ms. Steele if she had a copy. She replied that
she obtained a copy from the District's website. Councilman Spiegel
commented that they completed the plan on their own, and that it was not
something that he personally was looking forward to. He requested that
the Commission receive a copy of the plan. Ms. Steele replied that she
would mail the Commission a copy and will request that the CVRPD
present the master plan to the Commission.
Commissioner Barnes commented that after he read the report dated May
15, 2006, written by Ms. Steele concerning CVRPD, he expressed that
there seems to be a very critical situation, and hopes the City is prepared
to take over. Councilman Spiegel asked Commissioner Barnes that he
first review their master plan and then voice his concerns. He agrees that
there are problems, but he does not agree that they are critical since
things have been happening for some time now. Councilman Spiegel
mentioned that after the Commission's finishes reviewing all the
information, they would be able to give a recommendation to the City
Council.
C. PARKS & RECREATION NEEDS ASSESSMENT SURVEY
Ms. Steele announced that the City should be receiving a final copy of the
report on the needs assessment survey this week or the following week.
She needs to determine a time to present the information to the City
Council and the Commission. Councilman Spiegel suggested having a
Study Session in September.
Commissioner Dawson suggested sending the final report to the
Commission for their review before the meeting. Ms. Steele responded
that she would.
Chairman Guyer requested that the CVRPD Master Plan and the Needs
Assessment Survey final report is sent to the Commission for their review.
Commissioner Barnes commented that the agenda has a report showing
that 641 surveys were received. He asked if the next report is going to
show more surveys received. Ms. Steele apologized for the confusion.
The final report would include geo-coding and benchmarking.
Councilman Spiegel asked Ms. Steele if she saw any major changes
between the two reports. She replied that overall it was very similar.
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Commissioner Dash commented that not very many people know that
Palma Village Park exists. He suggested hiring college students to do a
count within that community to find out if they are aware of the Palm
Village Park. Ms. Steele responded that there is no awareness of the
parks, which seems to be evident in the needs assessment survey. She
commented that the City calendar for the following year is going to be on
City parks. The person that is working on the calendar is also working on a
guide showing all City parks.
Commissioner Barnes commented that Commissioner Dash has a point.
He referred to page 24 of the agenda packet that indicates the
percentages that the Palm Desert parks are visited. Councilman Spiegel
noted that a lot of people live in gated communities. The Commission
briefly discussed the use of neighborhood parks.
D. HOMME/ADAMS PROJECTS
Mr. Niemczak reported a burned palapa was replaced at Homme/Adams.
He mentioned that a sandstone located at the corner of Thrush Road and
Calle de los Campesinos was sandblasted, which indicates the trailhead
along with a directional arrow. Mr. Niemczak also reported that the spilt
rail fence would be installed after the Public Works Department completes
their paving project.
E. JOE MANN VANDALISM
Mr. Niemczak stated that the shade cloth at Joe Mann Park was burned
and slashed twice this year. The cost to repair has been $5,000.00 for
each occurence. He communicated that he would be contacting the
company to ask if they could raise the structure so that kids would not be
able to slash the shade.
Commissioner Dawson asked if there is an alarm system that could be on
the palapas and shade structures. Mr. Niemczak replied he is considering
raising the structure or installing motion sensor floodlights.
F. PREST VUKSIC ARCHITECTS
Mr. Niemczak reported that he is completing the designs with Prest Vuksic
Architects for the Legends Fields columns, Date Grove informational sign,
and Park Staff work and storage area.
Commissioner Barnes asked how many columns are going to be built. Mr.
Niemczak replied that there would be four. Commissioner Barnes asked
where they would be located. Mr. Niemczak responded that there would
be two on each of the entrance in line with the current columns.
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Chairman Guyer asked Mr. Niemczak to explain the design for the work
area. Mr. Niemczak explained the Parks Staff have a work area behind the
Community Center that is in very bad shape. He is working on upgrading
the area to make it workable.
Ms. Steele commented that the area is the Parks Staff office space. The
space does not have air conditioning and there are rodents. She wants to
give the Parks Staff a computer space area with air conditioning and get
rid of the rodents.
Councilman Spiegel asked if the project includes the handball courts. Ms.
Steele responded that it would not. She indicated that the handball courts
are a separate project that will be more detailed and be done at a later
time.
G. PARK INSPECTIONS
Ms. Steele stated that there currently is no sign identifying Palma Village
Park. Staff is looking at installing the sandstone slab that is currently at the
old Visitors Center on the corner of Monterey and Highway 111 and
relocating it to Palma Village. The sandstone belongs to the Art in Public
Places Department and Staff is working with them to have it moved.
Ms. Steele announced that after a year since the playground in the Civic
Center was burned, the City has received a notification that a check was
being processed for full reimbursement. She noted that she has talked to
the Finance Department to make sure the funds are deposited into the
Park Fund. They told her that it would be.
Chairman Guyer asked the Commissioners to notify Ms. Steele if they are
going to be away for the summer so that the park could be reassigned to
someone else.
Commissioner Dawson suggested contacting one of the other
Commissioners to have the inspection done for that person rather than
having Staff go around trying to find someone to do it.
IX. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Barnes asked for an update on the aquatic center. Ms.
Steele commented that she thought she would have some designs to
show to the Commission. She indicated that she was out of town on
vacation and she had not seen them since she returned. Ms. Steele
mentioned that she could call those on the Committee to come in and look
at the designs when she receives them, if they would like.
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Commissioner Barnes commented that he has heard that there is an
academy being built at the corner of San Pablo and Magnesia Falls.
Councilman Spiegel responded that it is going to be a Public Safety
Academy for recruiting fire and police. Commissioner Barnes asked if the
academy would affect the parking for the aquatic center. Councilman
Spiegel replied that the academy would have additional parking.
Commissioner Barnes voiced his concern for parking at the aquatic
center. Ms. Steele responded that Staff met with representatives from
College of the Desert (COD). She commented that they discussed shared
parking agreements by Parkview. Ms. Steele also commented that she
has discussed parking with Mark Greenwood, Public Works Department,
regarding using parking across the street on Parkview.
Councilman Spiegel suggested a representative from COD make a
presentation to the Commission showing their plans.
Councilman Spiegel noted that the Palm Desert Bowl is on the next City
Council agenda. He invited any Commissioners that might be interested in
speaking to support the Palm Desert Bowl to be at the meeting.
Commissioner Dash mentioned that Janis, Councilman Spiegel, and
himself met with Mr. Mays. He stated that he would find out within two
weeks if he will be available as the Legends Fields honoree.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Commissioner Dawson and unanimous vote of the
Commission, Chairman Guyer adjourned the meeting at 9:15 a.m.
Monica Loredo, Recording Secretary
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