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Chair Randy Guyer convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m. � _ W
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Present: Excused Absen �*a o c�v� x -�
Chairman Randy Guyer Commissioner J r�x�� � c,
Commissioner Phill Babcock (Munson on Leave of Absence)
Commissioner Daniel Barnes
Commissioner Roger Dash Absent
Commissioner Gerald Dawson Commissioner Michael Barnard
Commissioner David Garcia
Vice Chair Terry Schukart
Staff Present:
Robert Spiegel, Councilmember
Janis Steete, Parks & Recreation Services Manager
Jay Niemczak, Parks Maintenance Supervisor
Monica Loredo, Administrative Secretary
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - None
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Councifman Spiegel thanked Commissioner Dash for all the work he had
done to bring Mr. Willie Mays to the desert for the Senior Games dinner.
Commissioner Dash added that he would also like to thank Ms. Steele for
taking care of all the details.
Chairman Guyer mentioned that Commissioner Munson made it to the
dinner, and that it was great to see her. Councilman Spiegel asked if Ms.
Munson would be coming back to the Commission soon. Ms. Steele
replied that she hopes to be back by summer.
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Chairman Guyer asked the Commissioners to complete the Commission
Update Form and return them to Ms. Loredo.
V. PRESENTATIONS - None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. SKATE PARK OPERATIONAL HOURS
Discussion and recommendation to close the Skate Park during the
hours children are not in school, and utilize the school calendar to
schedule the hours.
Ms. Steele stated that Commissioner Barnes made a comment at the last
Commission meeting that the Skate Park was not being used during the
day when kids are in school, and the Commission had requested that this
item be added to the next Commission agenda. She recommends that the
Skate Park be closed between the hours of 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. during
the week, and utilize the school schedule to schedule the park hours
(school breaks, holidays, etc.).
Commissioner Dawson moved to recommend to the City Council to
open the Skate Park with an attendant present only during the times
when children are not in school, and utilize the Desert Sands Unified
School District School calendar to schedule the hours. Vice Chair
Schukart seconded the motion and carried by a 7-0 vote with
Commissioners Barnard and Munson ABSENT (Munson on LOA).
Mr. Tanner, Planning Commissioner, asked if there were anyone at the
Coachella Valley Community Center in the event someone would like to
skate when the park is closed. Ms. Steele responded that she has a
meeting scheduled with the Coachella Valley Recreation and Park District
(CVRPD) and would discuss it with them. She does not think the District
would oppose.
Councilman Spiegel interjected that if the item is approved, he requested
that City Staff notify all the school principals so they could inform the
students of the change.
VII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None
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VIII. REPORTS AND UPDATES
A. NORTH PORTOLA SPORTS PARK
Ms. Steele reported that the North Portola Sports Park Committee met
along with some property owners that live near the area. She noted that
based on the survey and a couple of council members, there is an interest
in building a new community center. Ms. Steele commented that it has
been mentioned of the possibility of having the community center built in
the north side. She indicated that at the last Committee meeting she gave
a virtual tour of the community center that was built in Grandview,
Missouri, right before she started working for the City of Palm Desert. The
Committee requested that the virtual tour be shown to the Commission
since it is along the lines of what has been discussed for the City.
Ms. Steele presented the virtual tour along with slides of the acfual
community center. She noted that the tour was based on the architectural
drawings. She narrated that the building was built into to the ground so
one side looks like one-story and the other side a finro-story. The center
included an indoor pool with a lazy river and 25-yard lap pool, gymnasium,
space for meetings or receptions, kitchen, rock wall (she does not
recommend), police substation, childcare, art and crafts room, full-size
basketball and volleyball courts, family changing rooms, showers and
lockers, run/walk track, and offices.
Councilman Spiegel asked how much did it cost to build the community
center. Ms. Steele replied that it cost $11 million, and it was built when the
economy was a little worse than it is now. It was completed in 2004, and
would probably cost a couple of million more dollars to build today. She
added that the center is 60,000 square feet.
Mr. Tanner asked how many acres was the site. Ms. Steele responded
that it was approximately 10 acres, which included parking.
Commissioner Barnes asked Ms. Steele how many lanes the track has.
She replied that it has three lanes.
Councilman Spiegel asked if the pool was large enough for water polo.
Ms. Steele responded that it was not. The pool is 25-yards, and was made
for the recreational swimmer.
Councilman Spiegel asked how big a pool would have to be to be used for
water polo. Ms. Steele responded that she believes it would have to be 30
meters.
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Ms. Steele noted that the pool that has been designed for the City is big
enough for water polo.
Commissioner Barnes commented that there was no mention of
racquetball, handball, or squash courts in the community center. Ms.
Steele replied that there was none built in the center. She commented that
the center was built around what the community wanted.
Commissioner Barnes asked what was the population in Grandview,
Missouri. Ms. Steele replied that the population was 26,000 with a very
urban and diverse community. The community was more of a middle class
than an upper class community. She commented that the center was
funded by a parks and storm sewer tax. The community was not rich and
did not have that type of capital.
Commissioner Barnes asked if the community had any outdoor pools. Ms.
Steele replied that they had two outdoor pools.
Councilman Spiegel asked if the facility had a kitchen. Ms. Steele
responded that it did have a catering kitchen, but not a cooking kitchen.
Councilman Spiegel asked what was staffing like. Ms. Steele responded
that there was always someone at the front desk. They had parks and
recreation, childcare, and pool staff.
Commissioner Garcia asked if there was a high impact on the energy
costs due to the glass windows. Ms. Steele stated the glass had a high UV
rating. The biggest challenge was the pool temperature and pool
ventilation.
Commissioner Barnes asked if there were aerobics, swimming, and life
saving classes throughout the day. Ms. Steele replied yes, and that they
had classes all day long. She has schedules of what they had available, if
anyone was interested at looking at them.
Ms. Steele mentioned that there is a design school that is given by
National Recreation and Park Association. The school is very helpful
because they tour facilities, and find out what they did right and what they
did wrong; what it cost to build them; how to build it; what features should
be added; and other details, such as computers, weight equipment, etc.
Ms. Steele suggested that if another community center is built in the City
down the road, she suggests someone from the Commission attend.
Councilman Spiegel also suggested looking at other community centers in
Southern California. Ms. Steele agreed.
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Councilman Spiegel mentioned that the City Council recently met and
discussed capital projects. The City Council spent a lot of time discussing
parks and recreation, mainly the pool. He noted that the pool would be on
the February 22, 2007, City Council agenda.
Commissioner Barnes asked Ms. Steele if the architect of the community
center was local (Grandview, Missouri). She replied that they had a
request for proposals. They received a proposal from an architect within
the state and one from out of state. Both architects worked together on the
community center.
Commissioner Barnes asked how many square feet was the facility in
Grandview. Ms. Steele replied 60,000.
The Commission thanked Ms. Steele for the virtual tour.
B. CAPITAL PROJECTS
Ms. Steele stated that the agenda packets have information on capital
projects that are being reviewed. She noted that the items located below
the solid line on each year have been budgeted and approved. It does not
include the pool or the community center. She mentioned that Staff is
looking at making some maintenance repairs and replacements, such as
park equipment, rebuilding of the community garden plots, replacing
irrigation controls, making ADA upgrades, and looking at some drainage.
Commissioner Dawson asked what is a water control system. Mr.
Niemczak explained that the system is called Calsense Irrigation System.
It is a computerized system so that everything is operated from City Hall.
Staff is working on having the system standardized so all City parks are on
one system.
Commissioner Dawson asked if the system saves water. Mr. Niemczak
replied that there are sensors that could be added so it could sense when
there is rainfall. It could also measure evaporation and monitor water
usage.
Commissioner Garcia commented that he had some type of sensor added
at his home, and he is assuming that it is working.
Commissioner Barnes asked what is the difference between the 233 and
430 Fund. Ms. Steele replied that they are two different funds the Parks
Department has. She commented that some of the money from the
amphitheater might have been used, and she was checking on it. The also
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commented that some of the money might have been used for park
acquisition.
Councilman Spiegel explained that the money for the amphitheater came
from the rentals/leases at the Park View office building.
Commissioner Barnes asked if the bikeway construction funds are for the
street paths or the project along I-10. Ms. Steele replied that it is for the
path along the I-10.
Commissioner Barnes commented that there is a large amount of money
to acquire property. He asked if there is that much property to acquire.
Ms. Steele replied that the funds were used to purchase the Portola
property for the north side park.
Commissioner Barnes asked for the location of the Satellite Yard. Ms.
Steele responded that it is the Park Maintenance Staff area.
Commissioner Barnes noted that there are two hiking trails listed on the
worksheet. He asked what trails is she referring to. Ms. Steele replied that
they are the mountain trails (trails being constructed by Mike Schuler).
Commissioner Barnes asked if the City is going to build restrooms at
Homme/Adams Park. Ms. Steele replied that restrooms at Homme/Adams
Park are not in the budget at this time.
Chairman Guyer questioned why under Year 2 of the spreadsheet are the
Legends Fields columns. Ms. Steele responded the columns were already
in the five-year plan.
Commissioner Garcia asked for an explanation of the irrigation retrofit
controllers and repair of the drainage system on Haystack. Mr. Niemczak
explained that the drainage system was installed approximately six years
ago. Through the years the rock has started to collapse. Therefore, the
City is going to have go back and redo the collapsed areas.
IX. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Chairman Guyer asked Mr. Ford, Coachella Valley Recreation and Park
District (CVRPD), if he had any comments.
(Mr. Ford and Mr. DeWitt arrived after oral communications).
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Mr. Ford reported that the CVRPD had 1,017 participants in the Senior
Games. He also reported that the weight room equipment for the Palm
Desert Community Center is supposed to be delivered this week.
Councilman Spiegel mentioned to Mr. Ford that he was disappointed that
the results from the Senior Games were not in the newspaper. Mr. Ford
replied that he would look into it.
Ms. Steele reminded the Commission that the aquatic center and the
CVRPD items would be on the next City Council agenda.
Councilman Spiegel asked Ms. Steele if the recommendation to change
the Skate Park hours is on the next agenda. Ms. Steele responded that it
would not. It will go on the following agenda.
Councilman Spiegel commented that the reason the Commission had to
finish their meeting early was due to a representative from Mary Bono's
office was meeting with Staff in the same meeting room.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Vice Chair Schukart, seconded by Commissioner
Dawson, and unanimous vote of the Commission, Chairman Guyer
adjourned the meeting at 9:10 a.m.
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Monica Loredo, Recording Secretary
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