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CA � `� APPLICATION TO APPEA�p� �UL 18 PM 12: so --�- L DECISIONOFTHE �a�.,�-%..ti� i^,� �, ����-1h�5.5�v�,� (Name of Determining Body) Case No. ���-�-r �`�s�� � 5�-� 2 Date of Decision: 7 �3 �� `7 Name of Appellant _ G E ✓L it/t 2� �3 C F c L� Phone 3�f 6 --5 S3 6 6 Address 73�-sv c.�.�N -��� �-�v•� ✓J�L ��� r� '� C .5c2� Description of App{icafion or Matter Considered: —2��.T r'rt .� �35�7 Z �-2-c�.'�c 5E s �� ; E L c_ Trt E � � !=oc� � �E rL,/('7 E i E�'L c—s�iV✓,> Sc�9 fac r3 rJ r-F�C 2 c�i`- ,-r� E ✓�r«.��c T Tc: T H �" /�d T!4 L E N "1 ,Ps4 R2 c_ C �. v wti c�C 5* �1+�= J�.t v �r�.s! ._ T.L rf �T rr f4 �S � i Y� � j �'/Z��/� -�G�� F-�-'�2 S�2�E N - Reason for A ppeal,(attach additional sheets if necessary): i�-•G ��ti�'J s c oa � �.v c � tiJ 'i H � f3vFFEK Z�•.;L - /k T T►�� �I rl E �'F T H C /-� �c�i 2 i N � T�-� � ��-`r`7 rT � 5 S !a N rJ /�� Nv `I- 1-Is( VC U ��iES G� r—�FE /9 '7r �v��iJ� Tlc:�..�5 cU F � p�'�C�� vs4 L. _ i�F� �.�v ti.• �r� � 5 ii� ��-� E �.Lv�css c��_ �� / '��'"7 �2v • �; ✓,� �NG C��iCS . �, . �ft�5v s E E � �'i��.�+ c rJ (Signa ure of Appellant) LC`� r�21 J n FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY �d� Date Appeal Filed: "/ ��g" �'7 Fee Received: Y� o���• � Treasurer's Receipt No. ����J Received by: / � Date of Consideration by City Council or City Official: ` Action Taken: Date: Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk COPYTO t+•rxid552n�WPtldId�WPDOCS`FORMS�dPP�IO dpp2dl wptl D nT� � � R�v 6/29/02 n� \�'/ i� � ��� � uN�EST ...,= couNT�Y c�u3 73-450 Country Club Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260 • (76Q) 346-5866 June 29, 2007 Bob Moore, General Manager Palm Desert Greens 73-750 Country Club Drive Palm Desert, CA 92260-4965 Having been unable to reach you in recent days, I thought it appropriate to review"where we're at" before the July 3rd Palm Desert Planning Commission hearing. In a May 8`h phone conversation with you, Jim Fergusan laid out Suncrest's position. Suncrest is not opposed to proposed Tract Map 35272 if Palm Desert Greens maintains the intent of the conditions applied to the project on the original 1971 Tract Maps approving Palm Desert Greens. Namely, the maps affecting our common boundary (Tract Maps #12721, 4251, 4181 and Parcel Map 11908} provide for a 15 foot buffer zone consisting of a fence and screening landscaping maintained by the Palm Desert Greens Association, in lieu of a block wall on the property line. Over the years the screening oleanders were removed or died and Suncrest planted temporary visual barriers on it's side of the fence, while alternatives were explored. Suncrest's oleanders and pyracanthas are now dying from disease and will be removed at our (considerable) expense. The areas will be relandscaped in desert scape, which will provide attractive common area landscaping, but not a visual barrier. Suncrest will be insisting that Palm Desert Greens live by the conditions on the current tract maps and provide a visual barrier. A wall seemed to be the best way of accomplishing this while allowing the new map to proceed. You responded that a wall would be very expensive and proposed to explore other screening plantings. This would be acceptable as long as everything is on Palm Desert Greens property and is maintained in a uniform fashion. From SuncresYs standpoint the plantings would have to be consistent, maintained by the Palm Desert Greens Association, and not a hodgepodge of view barriers created and maintained (or not so!} by different Palm Desert Greens homeowners. Now is the time to resolve this issue once and for all. It should have been done years ago, as evidenced by the ofd bids I enclose. Re ards, � � Gerhard W. Befeld cc: City Of Palin Desert Planning Commission . • • � � , . g�i,TE �� c'� _ - B --- �K _ _- v:___--- ��__ _ - E�___--- s g,___�-- g.__�- $P _ _. �o;,���;y.t F.__ -- ST,_,,..-- A • 4 • P -- Ks__.-�_- X_�-�-�' v��o:.r:• t� Lf;�� �,ILg � � �� �� t � � �� Av3.�st�,d ��t�3�gaAaa4. 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All �mprc��e+�ents ahse�.1 �:�n,orm sritu Couni;y ^u�a.Lv�sion °:tan.d.ards 3chedule "A" c:1].ea3 madi�i��. by �heee c�nd��ic�s. 2. All street iapro�ner�ute sha.'ll i�clua�e asp'�:.ali cor�cref.� pavir�g and curbs and gutters. All street im�ravement �idths s2za��. be d�si�n�d �nd conatructed in conPox�ance �+ith Couaty Road I�ciprovement 5tan6ar�s and shall be e�: zoll.arra: 32 i'eet vithia a 50 Poo� right of �ay, 36 �eet c�i.thin a 50 foot r�.6ht of K�y, and 4� feat vithin a 66 foot ri�ht of vay. Other etreet irrpravc-�e�ts ahsi.l be as follosrs: a. Portals Aven� ahall t� i�proved �ith 22 Qeet of asphalt concrete paving end concrett curb and gutter lccate� 22 Yeet from the cen�erlin� vithin a 50 foot half xidth dedicat.�d right oP w�y. b. Couatry Club Drive shaZ.'� be iaproved vith match up ar�pholt concrete petving and concrete curb and g�.ttsr Iac�ted 43 feet �roei the centerline j►ithin s 55 toot tzalf xidth d,ediceted right a� �.�y. c. Standard cul-de-S�s+es �d knuckles shall be ecr�atructed throughout the anbdivision except that ogf-sei: cul-�e-BQ.es �ay 1� pex�.tted e,s sppro;red by tlx Rivereide Couaty Road Caoeeissioner. 8. Mini� ce:aterlin� cuz�►� radii si�ll bt 300 fee� eacept for etreets I-1 aad J-1 �hich ahs1l be sa appro�ed by t.t�e RiverBide f�ounty Road Coamiia�ioaer. Ttu miniinum centerline curve radii cn the coilpetor S V?���fi sY�ll be �50 �ee�. e. �he raad geo�e�z�ics f�er "k" LYxee� shall be d,esi�med aad cons�ructed vith two 22 foot pave8 '!�n.�s, a 12 foot araded �ed�ar.; �i.thin an 80 foot dediceted rj ght oY �y ss eppro�ed ay �he Riversida CounLy I�oaci Com�issioner. f. �orner cut back sl�al.1 be sYLown on �:�e i'inF.1. rsap. g. All street� shta.il be c:Yer.e�� �o� c�dicFtion r.nd alu.11 be deaigned and cons�C�ucted t,o Caunt� st��.r:s �?th _o3.3�d �urb��2'�'Pe °C"), �u.� will not be accep�ed. Y.aintenance oP all i�f�ri.o7• at��:a s��1? �e izecr�aratec� int� the Conditicng. �f1::'C?hP.'F�!3 ?rtll i?n,.�. .,+'. " . .,� . h. Pcz�Lol� f!venue a!1d Cc��c�-� Cf�:.b D�ive +�:I2 b� sce�pted i�to the County mainta.fned ros8 sys�em. i. Portols Avenue, MC��erey Ij,venue, Cotuitry Club Drive and �onder PaLas Road shall be constructed �r?th barrier �ypa cancr��e curo s.nd Eutiter. �. Access �ro� a]„2 �.ote anto �cun��y Ciu� 33ri�e, t r.r��o?�. lvenu�, Monterey �venue stind Nonaar Palas Driti�e sball 'oe i•�stiricted and so no�e3 on the firtsl taap. k. Lot 1943 i$ desigr.a�Qd to �e �csd a,s �rail�r stor2�e ana ahal.l be so noted on the �inaZ map. A minis�� of a 50 f'�ot eas�rr,ent shall be provided from "p" Street. 1. 2+iiinimum ceriter2i ne ��'���� s��?.1 bA 200 feet. a. 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A coneret.e bZock raall, b S'ect �n h�ight sYsadi.l be rec�uired e�long Country Club Drive and a chsin link fence no� i.ess �hea 6 S'eet in hieght �af be permitted in ].ieu of the concret'.e b2ock wall on �he other buundarfes. 16. The setback �l.ong Mant�rey Av�n�:e �nd Cov.ntr3• Club Drive sha11 be s �inimwm oP 20 feet aa required 'oy �he Riv��;.�e Coi��y Z�ni ng OrBinancc 3�8. I ' MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 3. 2007 Vi. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None. VII. CONSENT CALENDAR None. VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS Anyone who chalienges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public hearing described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing. � A. Case Nos. TT 35271 and TT 35272, PALM DESERT GREENS ASSOCIATION, Applicant (Continued from March 6, March 20, April 7, May 15 and June 19, 2007) Request for approval of two tentative tract maps to subdivide 7.58-acres into 331 lots for property at 73-750 Country Club Drive, also more particularly described as APN's 620-272-014, 620-261-050, 620-251-039, 620-241-027, 620-094-026, 620- 082-035, 620-131-031, 620-141-001 and 620-151-034. Mr. Ryan Stendell explained that this item first appeared before Planning Commission on March 6, 2007. Since that time the Planning Commission allowed the applicant additional time to work with their neighbor on the possibility of coming to an agreement on a wall or landscaping solution between the two properties. He said the continuances gave staff plenty of time to take an in-depth look at this case. Mr. Stendelf stated that both parties reported that they have been unable to resolve the internal issue. They have been meeting and trying to come to an agreement. An agreement still has not been met. During that time,staff came to the conclusion that there was not a reasonable nexus between the application and the condition for a wall befinreen Suncrest Country Club and Palm Desert Greens. Staff's recommendation was to proceed with the original recommendation to move forward with approval of the subdivision. Mr. Stendell also requested 2 � I ' MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMiSSION JULY 3, 2007 that the draft resolution be amended to delete Public Works condition of approval number two. Commissioner Limont had a question regarding the June 29,2007 letterfrom Mr. Gerhard Befeld. It brought up the original 1971 tract map and says, "provide for a 15-foot buffer zone consisting of a fence and screening landscaping maintained by the Palm Desert Greens Association, in lieu of a block wall..." She asked if that was an obligation that was set when Palm Desert Greens was constructed and if that was an existing obligation. Mr. Stendell answered that it was his understanding that the tract map was very vague and called for landscaping and fencing in that 15 feet. Landscaping is very subjective and doesn't say that it needs to be a row of oleander hedges, it just says landscaping and fencing. He deferred the semantics to the City Attorney, but staff and the City Attomey had reviewed this together and did not feel this subdivision would be going against the original approval. Commissioner Limont was concerned that if there is an obligation outstanding, that they not grant this subdivision until it has been taken care of. Mr. Erwin explained that when they originally looked at it, the condition was very vague. He did not go back and look at the original approval by the County to see the actual wording of the condition; this was what Mr. Befeld suggested was the wording. At this point he could not justify or find a nexus as part of this subdivision map to require the construction of a walt between the two properties. If this is a condition that should be enforced, they could look at that and see if it needs to be enforced, but they could not currently impose on this subdivision the construction of a wall between the two properties. Commissioner Limont said she didn't want to do that, she wanted to make certain there isn't an existing obligation for that 15-foot buffer zone thaYs existing that needs to be addressed further. Mr. Erwin said it may well be a separate issue where they need to go back and look at the map and the original approvals and see if there is something they as a City should be enforcing. Commissioner Limont said she would be more comfortable with that before moving ahead. She said she realized this has been ongoing, but there is an outstanding obligation. Mr. Erwin thought this was something separate and apart from the approval. Commissioner Limont concurred. Mr. Erwin thought it was something that staff needs to look at and they need to get the original map and conditions, but it was separate from the current application. Commissioner Limont asked if Mr. Erwin was comfortable moving ahead with this as a separate issue. Mr. Erwin said yes. Commissioner Tschopp reiterated that there is no provision for any kind of screening or walls between this project and asked if later down the road they 3 ' i ' MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANN_I_NG COMMISStON JULY 3, 2007 thought some might be necessary and wanted that area maintained,whether it was a hedge or oleanders or so forth, if it would be too late to impose that kind of condition. Mr. Erwin said it was a matter of going back because the subdivision map is recorded. If that requirement is there, regardless of whether this is subdivided and this goes to a different property owner, it is a matter of record and they are subject to that condition and would be required to maintain that condition. Commissioner Tschopp asked if that would be the home owner or the home owner's association. Mr. Erwin said it could be either, whoever owns the property. Commissioner Tschopp commented that it would be difficult to enforce with that many members as opposed to one entity. Mr. Erwin said that was perhaps true. Commissioner Limont thought that was a really good point. Commissioner Tschopp asked if it could be conditioned that the home owner's association live up to the conditionslrestrictions of the original mapping, putting the onus on them to maintain. Mr. Erwin said that would be a condition they would be imposing that he believed was already there. Commissioner Tschopp said the homeowner's association would be responsible for making sure that members/the owners maintain hedging if that was required. Mr. Erwin said that was his understanding of the condition, yes. Commissioner Limont asked if they could place that as a condition. Mr. Erwin said it was already a condition, but if they wished to reimpose it, he thought that would be fine. Chairperson Campbell said it was already there, so they didn't have to redo it. Mr. Erwin didn't believe they did, but they could if they wished. Commissioner Schmidt asked for clarification. She didn't see anything in writing that said the Portola Avenue easement was eliminated from the subdivision because of a future road widening. Mr. Stendell acknowledged it is a complicated issue. Staff removed condition number finro that stated that very clearly under Public Works. When this is a project that is getting ready to rnove forward, Public Worics Department will do what they need to acquire that land. It should not be a condition of this map that they are not allowing a subdivision to occur because of a future road widening. Mr. Erwin stated that if the City wants that now, they might as well pay for it now and start it, because if they require this condition, he believed it is a taking and they have just bought the property. He did not believe it should be done in that manner. When they do have a project there, they will take whatever action is necessary to acquire the property. But to reserve it at this time for something that may occur in the future would create a taking by the City. Commissioner Schmidt asked if we did that at this time, it would be purchase via the Association. Mr. Erwin said assuming they were upset about it, and thought 4 � I ' MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 3. 2007 they probably would be, they would probably file a demand for inverse condemnation on the property. Commissioner Schmidt indicated that on the other hand, if they approved this and someone purchases one or more of those easements along Portola and at a later time we decide we need that roadway, we would then be paying whoever purchased it or the Association if they did not purchase it. Mr. Erwin said that was correct. Commissioner Schmidt said she was assuming also that the purchase of this easement property that would be gained would be by an existing homeowner on that property. I n other words, anyone couldn't go buy it. Mr. Stendell said that was correct; it was of value only to that specific property owner. In some cases the property was only 10- feet wide and the most was 16 feet wide. Commissioner Schmidt noted there was one 124 by 143 which is a pretty good size. Mr. Stendell said they are to be sold back to the individual property owners and were not big enough to do anything new on. Commissioner Tschopp asked if staff knew what the intent of the Palm Desert Greens Association would be if a homeowner decides not to buy the property directly behind them. Mr. Stendell deferred the question to the applicant. Commissioner Limont asked how they make certain that the barrier between Palm Desert Greens and Suncrest is acceptable to all parties. If they have 20 different homeowners on one side, how do they make sure there is continuity? Mr. Stendell said it was a case where it's an area only seen by finro property owners. It is not visible from public right-of-way. In this situation, the City prefers to step back and let the property owners take care of it. It has only come up as a mechanism through this map. If Palm Desert had originally approved the project and it had certain conditions, the City would go back and enforce them, but in a situation like this, staff would prefer to let the land owners and the property owners handle it, especially when it involves interior land. Chairperson Campbell noted thatthe public hearing was still oqen and asked the applicant to address the Commission. MR. ROY CRON, President of the Palm Desert Greens Homeowners Association, 39-030 Cudy Circle in Palm Desert, said he was present to answer any questions. He added that the concern that there would be a hodge podge of walls on that perimeter would not take place. They have a strong architectural review committee,that chairman was 5 ' MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 3 2007 atso present, and they were in the process of rewriting and restating those.As per their CC&R's,they would include that any walls that are placed on that perimeter/that easement would be of standard type construction that would best suit both their neighbor and themselves. They currently had brown slump stone. Again, this was an interior lot line, but they could guarantee what would take place. A homeowner couldn't build a wall without their approval.They can write those rules into their guidelines and into their restated rules and regulations. Chairperson Campbell pointed out that staff said that really had nothing to do with the apptication. Mr. Cron said he couldn't really hear anything that was said, the acoustics was terrible. Chairperson Campbell explained that the application before the Commission really had nothing to do with the fencing or fence screening, which was an interior problem. They were really just talking about the Portola wall. Mr. Cron reconfirmed that they were talking about the Portola easement. Chairperson Campbell concurred. Mr. Cron said he heard the City Attomey's point of view and what he thought he heard was that to not okay that portion of the map plan would not be in anyone's interest at this particular point. He asked if that was correct. Mr. Erwin said it wasn't exactly what he said, but was what he meant. Mr. Cron stated that they had no problem with either direction. If the City wished to pull the Portola side, they haven't taken a position on that at all. That property would be owned by the homeowner's association and they would deal with the City at that particular time. They would like to see it approved, only because it may or may not ever happen. It wasn't even in the future forecasting out to the year 2012. If the City does intend to take it, they should have done it sooner rather than later only because the people living on that particular easement portion and their realtors have to disclose if they want to sell their property, and it has a detrimental effect on the 6 � ' MtNUTES . PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 3, 2007 property value. He asked that they approve the entire map plan, including the Portola easement. Commissioner Tschopp asked what the homeowner's association would do if a property owner doesn't wish to buy the property adjacent to them. Were there plans on how it will be maintained and what would be done? Mr. Cron said they can demand that they be maintained. They were not easy on the violators in their community. If a homeowner didn't buy that property, the association would still maintain it. Commissioner Schmidt asked if the property abutting Suncrest was deleted from the application, what impact that would have on their money raising. Mr. Cron said it would have a huge impact. He thought there were about 120 homes on that strip of property that borders Suncrest. It would have a serious effect on them. They need that map plan okayed. They worked with Mr. Befeld and would try to work with him. They tried to get him to the table. His last correspondence to them did have some interesting points in it and they certainly have asked him to continue discussions with them and they would be happy to work with him. They weren't ignoring them,they would do their best to take care of them. MS. MARIE BEFELD of Suncrest, 73-450 Country Club Drive, stated that one of the reasons they are in this right now is that she and Gerhard have been at Suncrest since 1982. Suncrest was built after Palm Desert Greens. In those days the County required chain link and oleanders rather than block walls because block walls would have scared a lot of developers away. So when they took over Suncrest, Palm Desert Greens had nice chain link fence and oleanders that looked great. Pretty soon, for whatever reason, they decided it was cheaperto letthe homeowners maintain the oleanders ratherthan the Association because it would save them money and somehow that got passed. Pretty soon some of the homeowners were pulling out the oleanders because they wanted to see the view or whatever, so at that time they were trying to fill Suncrest and didn't want to look at a bunch of back yards, so they took it upon themselves to plant on their side, and planted oleanders because they make a great barrier. Who would have known that they would get a disease and start to die?She felt they wou(dn't be in this predicament if the Association had taken care of what they were supposed to do and not put it onto their home 7 ( � ' MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION JULY 3, 2007 owners. Meanwhile, they get complaints from Palm Desert Greens because SuncresYs oleanders are dying. They are taking them out, but technically they were supposed to be Palm Desert Greens' oleanders on their side in that 15 feet. She didn't know what else to say, but she did think it shoutd be a condition. She didn't think it was fair for her residents to look at their back yards. If someone was to build a new project now, if Suncrest wasn't there and Palm Desert Greens went in,the City would require a wall and then whatever went in after that, the wall would be there. She said they weren't insisting on a wall, but something that is consistent and looks nice. It could be pyracantha, bougainvillea, etc. They were willing to work with Palm Desert Greens, but they feel they've maintained something Palm Desert Greens was supposed to maintain and they've maintained it for 15 years. Now they were complaining because Suncrest's plants were dying. Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone else wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no one and the public hearing was closed. Chairperson Campbell asked for Commission comments or action. Commissioner Limont said it was two separate issues. In other words, there was an issue with regard to the finro associations and the border/perimeter. But the issue before them was really granting the tract map. She didn't have any hesitation as long as it was not going to obligate the City in any way, shape or form. If it's already a condition, great, otherwise she'd like to have it in there. Commissioner Tschopp thought the project should be approved because it would be for the common good of the residents of Palm Desert Greens. He also believed the original intent of the 1971 tract map filing should be enforced. He wished there was a way to handle Portola now because it would be much more difficult in the future, but since that's a nebulous date, they need to move forward at this time. Lastly, there are two nice pieces of property out there and he couldn't encourage the two home owners enough to get together for the benefit of everyone using the facilities on both sides of the fence to work it out. He knew they were trying to, but encouraged them to speed it up and do it. Commissioner Tanner agreed it is something that needs to be approved. He thought this was something that could have been taken care of long ago had there been representation. They tried to get it done two or three meetings 8 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION _ __ _ JULY 3�2007 ago and it kept getting postponed. The issue between Palm Desert Greens and Suncrest couldn't be postponed any longer. Something had to be done. They need to work together as neighbors and find a way to make both sides happy. He thought they were moving in that right direction, especially if the tract map approved in 1971 so indicates and stipulates that there be fencing and some sort of a blocking between the two properties. He was in favor of approving the tract map, but also encouraged them to work a little bit quicker than what has been displayed over the last three months and get this done. Commissioner Schmidt had some deep concerns about this. It sounded great, grand and wonderful on the surface; however, she thought it was pretty clear that the boundary wall, fence or screening was really a requirement of Palm Desert Greens. The fact that Suncrest abuts to it now poses something she didn't think they had thought about. They were eliminating a minimum of 14 feet along a great periphery of Suncrest, which means they were bringing patios or whatever they decided to use that ground for if it is bought that much closerto Suncrest with no barrier/with no setback. She had problems with approving it and couldn't vote in favor of it because of the impact it has on a neighbor. Whether or not they share the cost of the wall or not was not an issue with her, it was the taking of ground for a private purpose that impacts a neighbor. That wasn't good legislation in her mind. Chairperson Campbell agreed with the other Commissioners. She thought the issue of the interior fencing was between the two clubs and asked for a motion. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner Tschopp, adopting the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner Schmidt voted no). It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner Tschopp, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2446 approving Case Nos. TT 35271 and TT 35272, subject to conditions as amended (deleting Public Works Condition No. 2). Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner Schmidt voted no). B. Case No. CUP 07-07 - BEN SPERBER, Applicant Request for approval of a conditional use permit to allow a freestanding detached accessory structure/motor-home 9 CITY OF PALM DESERT PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM TO: Department of Community DevelopmenUPlanning Attention: Ryan Stendell FROM: Phil Joy, Associate Transportation Planner SUBJECT: TT 35271 & 35272 Palm Desert Greens Conditions of Approval DATE: February 14, 2007 1. Complete tract map shall be submitted as required by ordinance to the Director of Public Works for checking and approval prior to the issuance of any permits. 2. Common Easement shall be maintained on Lots 25 - 66 and the easterly 200 sq. ft. of Lot 25 of TT 35271 for the futWre widening of Portola Avenue; and for Lots 136 and 137 and the westerly 200 sq. ft. of Lot 138 of TT 35272 for the purpose of a right-turn pocket on northbound Monterey Avenue at Frank Sinatra Drive. Phil Joy C iDocume�rs ana Somngs�arende�IlLow�Settmgs�Temporary�ntemar F,�es�0[X 1 t�TT 3527t 35272 PD Greens 1 wp0 -� �_(:�:I���D C;IT t ('LERK'S �FFICE P,;! M !?ESERT. CA PROOF OF PUBLICATION This is space for County Clerk's Filing SWmp (2015.S.C.C.P) ���1 SEP -4 PH 2: ZO STATE OF CALlFORNIA County of Rlverside 1 am a cituen of the Un4ted States and a resident of Proo�of Publicadon of the County aforesaid;i am over the age of efghteen --- — years,and not a party to or ioterested in the above-entitled matter. I am the principal clerk of a printer of the,DESERT SUN PUBLISHING COMPAlVY a newspaper of general circuladon, printed and published in the city of Pnlm Springs, County of Riverside,and whlch newspaper has been adjudged a newspaper of general circuladon by the No. 2�a2 Superior Court of the County of Riverside,State of c►rY�e����pT Caltfornia under the date of March 24, 1988.Case cnse r�ps.77�� a�2 Number 191236;that tbe noHce,of which the NOT}CE IS HEREBY QIVEN that e ublic hean will b�held be(pre the Pelm annexed is a printed copy(set in type not smeller ro consiaer en ���OU"� than non pariel,has been published in each regular `i"�'s'�+'ap►x���wo(zj te�s�ew ve°cr`"�,1Oo eubdivide 7.5g_acrss into 33t lote. 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'.`. r I� ,a �, �' �� . i�r�� . . i _'t ��"•'� ' :'. r��� *' 1.!� 2i��$�`� �..:. � ��� }_+a.'� ,�i, �'��'c'q�' "�" ��v. , .,�;, .�� � � {' �?e � ' ..,��� ���� k :��... � ��, �'�°,i.. � r'�u -- -1 ,.�t t"s' a; `� � A ��:_�...�. ��� �'�', " '� `- -^"'� ,'"~ " � � � ;, ,1-'�y. . � ��~ ��y ��-� r�.' .:����►"�' '�:: F'� �.',� �. � � � ��'�-�.Y �r � �����,� � � ��� +• • y ��*� IR'4-. • '�1�• ✓ i ���`� � '•'±• •� �':. � �'a . .a`. {��j �5.. { �. � " ( I .. � ' Y �. r ; � j �'- 2 f �� � � 'r,°�� i Palm , ���_.:�► ,c� .'IT , C�."RK 'S OFFICE !'..�.N �E�E:RT, CA Desert �a�� ocT , o �n 4: os Greens Association 73-750 Country Club Drive Palm Desert, California 92260-2398 (760) 346-8005 Fax (760) 568-4965 www.pdgcc.org October 10, 2007 City of Palm Desert Department of Community Development Mr. Ryan Stendell, Associate Planner 73-510 Fred Waring Drive Palm Desert, CA 92260 Re: Approval of two (2) Tentative Tract Maps; Case No. TT35271 & TT35272 Dear Mr. Stendell: At the request of the Board of Directors, I am preparing this letter for your information. After many months of positive discussions, on the subdividing of 7.58 acres, into 331 lots, the Boazd of Directors of Palm Desert Greens Association has voted to withdraw their application request for approvals on tract maps TT35271 &TT35272, from the City of Palm Desert. The Boazd does not feel the benefit to individual homeowners will outweigh the project's costs and, in light of a recent appeal does not feel it can obligate its Association owners with further debts or expenses. Please convey this information to the Planning Depar[ment and City Council so our recommendation for approval of the maps may be taken off the October 11, 2007, City Council agenda. We appreciate your personal efforts in seeing this project through to this point. Sincerely, � ��— Robert A. Moore General Manager cc: Wayne S. Guralnick, Esq. , > � C'-�C.�`r�n�ox v�ousr.vi� �r��n�nuan�l�