HomeMy WebLinkAboutRes 07-65 Appeal TT35271 and TT 35272 Palm Desert Greens Resolution No. 07-65
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STAFF REPORT
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REQUEST: Consideration of an appeal of a Planning Commission action
approving two (2) tentative tract maps to subdivide 7.58 acres into
331 lots. Subject property is located at 73-750 Country Club Drive.
(APN's: 620-272-014, 620-261-050, 620-251-039, 620-241-027, 620-
094-026, 620-082-035, 620-131-031, 620-141-001 and 620-151-034)
SUBMITTED BY: Ryan Stendell, Associate Planner MEETi G DA'PE _. % ��`����
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APPLICANT: Palm Desert Greens Association � p��ED TO 2ND REAOlNG
73-750 Country Club Drive
Palm Desert, CA 92260
* Continued the public hearing to t e mee ing
APPELLANT: Gerhard Befeld of October 11, 2007, with staff and a sub-
73-450 Country Club Drive committee of Councilmembers Finerty and Spiegel
Palm Desert, CA 92260 to work with the Applicant and Appellant
in the meantime to work out an agreement
for the wall/landscaping issue.
CASE NO: TT 35271 & 35272
DATE: September 13, 2007
CONNTENTS: A. Draft Resolution
B. Legal notice
C. Appeal form
D. County Conditions of Approval Tract No. 4115
E. Plans and Exhibits
I. RECOMMENDATION:
That the City Council reaffirm the action of the Planning Commission, approving
two (2) tentative tract maps to subdivide 7.58 acres into 331 lots, dated July 3,
2007.
STAFF REPORT
CASE NO. TPM 35271 & 35272
SEPTEMBER 13, 2007
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II. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
Reaffirmation of the Planning Commission decision dated July 3, 2007 would
allow 7.58 acres of perimeter open space to be divided into 331 individual lots. If
approved, Palm Desert Greens will attempt to sell each portion of land to the
existing adjacent property owners within the country club to increase the size of
their lots. This subdivision will not result in any increase in densiry and in most
cases will remain usable open space as a part of the owner's rear yard.
III. BACKGROUND:
A. Planning Commission:
At its meeting of March 6, 2007, the Planning Commission reviewed this
matter for the first time. The neighbor to the south (Suncrest Country
Club) appeared at that time and suggested that this would be an
opportune time to address an aging landscaped hedge between the two
properties, and that a wall or some other means of screening be required
as a condition to the subdivision. After hearing testimony from both the
applicant and the adjacent landowner, the Planning Commission granted a
continuance to allow the neighbors time to try and reach an agreement.
After a series of continuances, the Planning Commission reviewed this
matter at its meeting of July 3, 2007. Staff indicated that neither party had
reached an agreement on the landscaping hedge or the possibility of
sharing the cost of a wall. It was the opinion of the City Attorney at that
time that there was no reasonable nexus between the subdivision of land
and the requirement for screening between two (2) properties.
The appellant, Mr. Befeld of Suncrest Country Club, stated he be4ieved
there was a condition on the original approval of Palm Desert Greens
Country Club that required them to maintain a landscape buffer. Staff,
along with the City Attorney, agreed that the original file would be located
for Palm Desert Greens from the County, and Staff would research that
condition. The Ciry Attorney commented that if there were a condition for
screening, the subdivision could still occur, but the condition would pass to
the individual property owners. The Commission asked that staff follow up
on the original conditions for Palm Desert Greens and approved the
project as presented, (motion carried 4-1 Commissioner Schmidt voting
no).
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SEPTEMBER 13, 2007
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B. Tract No. 4115 Approved September 1970
County records indicate that the original approval for the Palm Desert
Greens Country Club was dated September 29, 1970. The original
approval was conditioned to provide a six (6) foot concrete block wall
along Country Club Drive and a six (6) foot chain link fence around all
other boundaries. Palm Desert Greens was developed in phases with
several tract maps associated. It appears the area bordering Suncrest
was approved by Tract 4181 in December of 1970. The Counry records
only indicate the conditions for the original project, and do not have any
further conditions of approval for any subsequent maps, including Tract
4181. The only indication of a requirement for screening or fencing is in
the approved map where it calls out the perimeter lot as `fencing and
landscaping.'
C. Adjacent Zoning and Land use:
North: Planned Residential-5 (Marriott Shadow Ridge)
South: Planned Residential-5 (Villa Portofino)
East: Planned Residential-5 (Portola C.C. & Desert Willow)
West: City of Rancho Mirage
IV. TENTATIVE TRACT MAP/ANALYSIS:
The proposed tentative tract map would subdivide 7.58 acres of perimeter
open space into 331 lots that could be sold back to individual property
owners within Palm Desert Greens Country Club.
Staff hoped that the original files from the County would clarify the history
of development. Unfortunately, the only conditions of approval that were
found on the project were related to Tract 4115, which seems to be the
original mass approval for the project. However, the subject appeal is
looks at a subsequent Tract (TT 4181) with no conditions on file. The map
(TT 4181) does indicate the perimeter lot as `fencing and landscaping',
which is subjective. There is an existing six (6) foot fence on the properry
line between Suncrest Country Club and Palm Desert Greens, and
existing landscaping remains in place.
With the absence of applicable conditions from the Counry, staff concurs
with the City Attorney that there is no nexus between the subdivision of
land and any requirement for a wall or screening. Staff is still encouraging
both property owners to continue negotiations in an attempt to find a
solution that serves both parties.
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SEPTEMBER 13, 2007
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V. FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. That the proposed map is consistent with applicable general and specific
plans.
• The proposed tract maps are consistent with the P/anned
Residential land use designation and the City's General Plan.
2. That the design or improvements of the proposed tract map are consistent
with the applicable general and specific plans.
• The tract maps meet a/l zoning ordinance requirements and are
consistent with the General Plan.
3. That the site is physically suitable for the type of development.
• The site is physica/ly suitab/e for this type of deve/opment.
4. That the site is physically suitable for Planned Residential Development.
• This property is suitable for p/anned residential deve/opment as it is
a part of an existing mobile home park. The subdivision does not
result in a change of use or density.
5. That the design of tract map or the proposed improvements are not likely
to cause substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidably
injure fish or wildlife or their habitat.
• The design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not
likely to cause substantial environmental damage or substantial and
avoidab/e injury to fish, wildlife or their habitat.
6. That the design of the parcel or type of improvements is not likely to cause
serious public health problems.
• The design of the tract map is consistent with all provisions of the
zoning ordinance. Any development on the proposed parcel is
subject to applicab/e City developmenf standards and the California
Uniform Building Code.
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7. That the design of the subdivision or the rype of improvements will not
conflict with easements, acquired by the public at large, for access
through or use of property within the proposed subdivision.
• Subdivision improvements will not conflict with any public
easements.
VI. ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW:
This application is a Class 5 (minor alteration in land use limitations) categorical
exemption for the purposes of CEQA and no further documentation is necessary.
Prepared by:
YAN ENDELL
Associate Planner
Reviewed and roved..b�:�
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LAURI AY N
Director of ommu ' Development
H ER CROY
ACM, Devel ment Services
CARLOS OR A
City Manager
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RESOLUTION NO. 07-65
A RESOLUTION OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL, REAFFIRMING AN
ACTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, APPROVING TWO (2) TENTATIVE
TRACT MAPS TO SUBDIVIDE 7.58 ACRES INTO 331 LOTS, DATED JULY 3,
2007. SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 73-750 COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE
(APN: 620-272-014, 620-261-050, 620-251-039, 620-241-027, 620-094-026, 620-
082-035, 620-131-031, 620-141-001 and 620-151-034)
CASE NOS. TT 35271 & 35272
WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Palm Desert, California, did on the 13th day of
September, 2007, hold a duly noticed public hearing to consider an appeal of a Planning
Commission decision dated July 3, 2007, for approval of the above noted; and
WHEREAS, said application has complied with the requirements of the "City of Palm
Desert Procedure for Implementation of the California Environmental Quality Act', Resolution No.
06-78, in that the Director of Community Development has determined that this project is a Class
5 categorical exemption for the purposes of CEQA; and
WHEREAS, at said public hearing, upon hearing and considering all testimony and
arguments, if any, of all interested persons desiring to be heard, said City Council did find the
following facts and reasons to exist to justify approval of the said request:
1. The proposed tract maps are consistent with the proposed General Plan
designation of low density residential.
2. That the design or improvement of the proposed subdivision is consistent with
applicable general and specific plans.
3. That the site is physically suitable for the type of development.
4. That the site is physically suitable for the proposed density of development.
5. The improvements are fully constructed and the new tract maps will not result in
any physical changes to undeveloped land. The design of the subdivision or the
proposed improvements are not likely to cause substantial environmental damage
or substantial and avoidable injury to fish, wildlife or their habitat.
6. The design of the subdivision will be in compliance with applicable health, safety
and building codes. The site can be served by respective utilities, will provide
adequate traffic circulation and is designed in compliance with all city codes.
7. All subdivision improvements will not conflict with any public easements.
8. The project meets all code requirements. The design of the subdivision will not
impact solar access to adjacent properties or the subject property. All single-family
homes shall be reviewed and approved by the City prior to construction.
RESOLUTION NO. 07-65
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Palm Desert,
California, as follows:
1. That the above recitations are true and correct and constitute the findings of the
City Council in this case.
2. That approval of Tentative Tract Map No. 35271 & 35272 is hereby granted,
subject to conditions attached.
PASSED, APPROVED AND ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the Palm Desert City
Council, held on this 13th day of September, 2007, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
ATTEST:
RACHELLE KLASSEN, City Clerk
City of Palm Desert, California
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RICHARD S KELLY, Mayor
RESOLUTION NO. 07-65
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
CASE NOS. TT 35271 & 35272
Department of Community Development:
1. The development of the property shall conform substantially with exhibits on file with the
department of community development, as modified by the following conditions.
2. Map shall record within two years unless an extension of time is granted; otherwise said
approval shall become null, void and of no effect whatsoever.
3. The development of the property described herein shall be subject to the restrictions
and limitations set forth herein which are in addition to all municipal ordinances and
state and federal statutes now in force, or which hereafter may be in force.
Department of Public Works:
TRACT MAP CONDITIONS
1. Complete tract map shall be submitted as required by ordinance to the Director of Public
Works for checking and approval prior to the issuance of any permits.
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June 29, 2007
Bob Moore, General Manager
Palm Desert Greens
73-750 Country Club Drive
Palm Desert, CA 92260-4965
Having been unable to reach you in recent days, I thought it appropriate to review"where we're at" before
the July 3`d Palm Desert Planning Commission hearing. In a May 8'h phone conversation with you, Jim
Ferguson laid out Suncrest's position.
Suncrest is not opposed to proposed Tract Map 35272 if Palm Desert Greens maintains the intent of the
conditions applied to the project on the original 1971 Tract Maps approving Palm Desert Greens.
Namely, the maps affecting our common boundary (Tract Maps #12721, 4251, 4181 and Parcel Map
11908) provide for a 15 foot buffer zone consisting of a fence and screening landscaping maintained by
the Palm Desert Greens Association, in lieu of a block wall on the property line.
Over the years the screening oleanders were removed or died and Suncrest planted temporary visual
barriers on it's side of the fence, while alternatives were explored. Suncrest's oleanders and pyracanthas
are now dying from disease and will be removed at our (considerable) expense. The areas will be
relandscaped in desert scape, which will provide attractive common area landscaping, but not a visual
barrier. Suncrest will be insisting that Palm Desert Greens live by the conditions on the current tract maps
and provide a visual barrier. A wall seemed to be the best way of accomplishing this while allowing the
new map to proceed.
You responded that a wall would be very expensive and proposed to explore other screening plantings.
This would be acceptable as long as everything is on Palm Desert Greens property and is maintained
in a uniform fashion. From Suncrest's standpoint the plantings would have to be consistent, maintained
by the Palm Desert Greens Association, and not a hodgepodge of view barriers created and maintained
(or not so!) by different Palm Desert Greens homeowners.
Now is the time to resolve this issue once and for all. It should have been done years ago, as evidenced
by the old bids I enclose.
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TRACT AO o �+115 Septe�e'��� 29 a �9T0
1. All impx�ve�ents s�,L1 :�n�'c�rm �ritv G��n�:y ;u�o�.��sioa �t�snciards �ch�dule "A" �::zl.ea3
modi�i��. by �Y�ee cand�Usc�s.
2. All str�e� i�p�o�►��x�te sha.11. a�clua� asp'u�3�c cor�cref.e pavirig and curbs aad gutters.
All atz�et �ravemen� �idths s�a,I� b� dAsign�d �nd conatructed in coaPormance with
County ReacY �prove��t Stanaa��s �.nd st�].l be e.s Po1Zs�cas: 32 i'eeL vithia a 50 Poo�
right of �y, 36 feet 4�i.thin a� 50 �oot rigYzt af ��y, end � feet aitbin s �& foot righ�
of �y. Ather etree� irxprave�nts ah�i,.l b� as �ol.lo�s: �
a. Portole �4ven� sha11 1�e ix�px�oved �aith 22 Qe�� of asp2�t co�ncrete p�sving sad conex�te
curb and gutter lcc�ted 22 Yeet �� the cenfi,erlin� z+ithin a 50 �oot hslf w3dth
�edicated right aP �y.
b. Couatry Club Dr�v�e she�.'� be iagroved �rith raat.eh up a�pholt cancr�te paving and
concre�e curb snd gut��er 2cac��ed �3 fe�t from the centerliae `►ithln a 55 foot
ha1P iridth d�dica�d right of w�y.
c. Stitndard cul-de-agc:s �d kauckZes she�ll be cc�strixcted throughout the subdivisioa
except that agf-sei cul-�e-sa.cs aay► � p�xv�itted ea sppro;red by tlx Riverside
Gnwrty �os►d Cee�aise�on�z�.
�.o Minims� centerliu� curv� radii s�ll be 300 �°ee� e�ccept for streets I-1 and �-1
�hiah aha].]. be as aagroved by �-,Yie 8iv�rBide �ou�ty Road Comatissiaaer. �'he minimum
c�nterline curve �adii ors �he coal�etor s���et; shal3. be !�50 �eeZ.
e. �he raad geo�e�z�ics fcr "�." it.ree� st�a.tl l� c�..esig3aed aad constructed �ith tr�a
22 foot pavefl ��s, a 12 Yc�o� araded m.ed�an.� �ri.thia an 80 Yoot dedicsted. p�ght
oY �y► �s �ppxRoYed �y zi�e Ri�exsida �atarivy Rc��ci Coms�is�ioner.
f. �arraer cut bsck sl:�.l b� �t-ta�rn o� �.�e r'in�.3. rt�p.
g. All stree*� st�ai.l Ue c•���r.E�3 fcr� d�cL.c��ion r�nd ahr�.? be d.eaigned and cons�Cructed
Y�o Gcunt� st�c�r� w°ith �����d curb���'r'ge "C"}, �u� wil� not be succep�ed.
Y,s�.a'ten�nne ��' all ��f�ri.o7• ;�tz^���Ls s�-�a1? '�� i��orpar�tec� into the Conditicns.
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h. Pcrtola I�ve�u� eazd Cc�u�'c�y Cj�.� D�iv� t,�17. be scc�pted i�Y.o the County maintafned •
road sys�m.
i. Pox'tQla I�venv�, �Icn�cer�y l�.venue, C��x,�try Club Drive and �ionder F�.l.ms Road shall be
coast.rueted ati th barrier �ype c�ner��� c:uro snd �u�ter.
�. Access �ra� �.�. 7.ote cs�.�o ��un��y C�u.� I3r?�e, �r;�•co?��� -tvenu�e, b4oaterey Aven�e snd
Hona�r Palns Drire shal2 � restirict�d ar�d sQ no�ed un the fir��sl �p.
k. Lot �g�3 �s desig�a�c�d te be u��d ara �:ail�r st�r�e a.nd aha11 � sa no�ted on the
Pinal axip. A mini�zu� �f a 50 ��a� e���rr�nt shall he provided �s•e�a "A" Street.
1.. P#.i.r�imum centeriine ��'fs�� s�a�,��. be 2Q0 fse�.
r�. �ccesa onto Parto?.� A��e��e sh..a?.1 '�e provid�d in �he viciniicy oP I,ots S2 �� 53•
Said eccess sb�].1 �s ta r+.3niau�n aP G& feet of d��ica�ed right of �ra,y and shz�?
cnnform �si�h Co�n�:y I►��r�v��en� 5���cisrds 1�3f�.
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15. A concret.e block r�rall, b Fe�t �n he3ght s1�3.1 �e rec�uired along Cou�ntry Clab Drive and
a ehain Iink fence no� %ess �hen 6 P�t in hie:ght raa;/ be p�rraitted in lieu of �he
concre� block �s21 os� �h� otber bt,un���s.
16. Th� setback n2ong I�on�x•ey Av�n��.e �.d Countr�� C�ub Dr3ve sl�,il be a �l.nimwa oY 20 Peet
as required ny �he Riv��-s..a� Cot�rs�y Zoa�i ng Grdinance 348.
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VI. ORAL CUMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising
only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public hearing
described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning
Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
� A. Case Nos. TT 35271 and TT 35272, PALM DESERT GREENS
ASSOCIATION, Applicant
(Continued from March 6, March 20, April 7, May 15 and June 19,
2007)
Request for approval of two tentative tract maps to subdivide
7.58-acres into 331 lots for property at 73-750 Country Club
Drive, also more particularly described as APN's 620-272-014,
620-261-050, 620-251-039, 620-241-027, 620-094-026, 620-
082-035, 620-131-031, 620-141-001 and 620-151-034.
Mr. Ryan Stendell explained that this item first appeared before Planning
Commission on March 6, 2007. Since that time the Planning Commission
allowed the applicant additional time to work with their neighbor on the
possibility of coming to an agreement on a wall or landscaping solution
between the two properties.
He said the continuances gave staff plenty of time to take an in-depth look
at this case. Mr. Stendell stated that both parties reported that they have
been unable to resolve the internai issue. They have been meeting and
trying to come to an agreement.An agreement stilf has not been met. During
that time,staff came to the conclusion that there was not a reasonable nexus
between the application and the condition for a wall between Suncrest
Country Club and Palm Desert Greens.
Staff's recommendation was to proceed with the original recommendation to
rnove forward with approval of the subdivision. Mr. Stendell also requested
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that the draft resolution be amended to delete Pubfic Works condition of
approval number finro.
Commissioner Limont had a question regarding the June 29,2007 letterfrom
Mr. Gerhard Befeld. It brought up the original 1971 tract map and says,
"provide for a 15-foot buffer zone consisting of a fence and screening
landscaping maintained by the Palm Desert Greens Association, in lieu of a
block wa{I..." She asked if that was an obligation that was set when Palm
Desert Greens was constructed and if that was an existing obligation. Mr.
Stendell answered that it was his understanding that the tract map was very
vague and called for landscaping and fencing in that 15 feet. Landscaping
is very subjective and doesn't say that it needs to be a row of oleander
hedges, it just says landscaping and fencing. He deferred the semantics to
the City Attorney, but staff and the City Attomey had reviewed this together
and did not feel this subdivision would be going against the original approval.
Commissioner Limont was concemed that if there is an obligation
outstanding, that they not grant this subdivision until it has been taken care
of. Mr. Erwin explained that when they originally looked at it, the condition
was very vague. He did not go back and look at the original approval by the
County to see the actual wording of the condition; this was what Mr. Befeld
suggested was the wording. At this point he could not justify or find a nexus
as part of this subdivision map to require the construction of a wall between
the finro properties. If this is a condition that should be enforced, they could
look at that and see if it needs to be enforced, but they could not currently
impose on this subdivision the constructio� of a wall between the two
properties. Commissioner Limont said she didn't want to do that,she wanted
to make certain there isn't an existing obligation for that 15-foot buffer zone
that's existing that needs to be addressed further. Mr. Erwin said it may well
be a separate issue where they need to go back and look at the map and the
original approvals and see if there is something they as a City should be
enforcing. Commissioner Limont said she would be more comfortable with
that before moving ahead. She said she realized this has been ongoing, but
there is an outstanding obligation. Mr. Erwin thought this was something
separate and apart from the approval. Commissioner Limont concurred. Mr.
Erwin thought it was something that staff needs to look at and they need to
get the original map and conditions, but it was separate from the current
application. Commissioner Limont asked if Mr. Erwin was comfortable
moving ahead with this as a separate issue. Mr. Erwin said yes.
Commissioner Tschopp reiterated that there is no provision for any kind of
screening or walls between this project and asked if later down the road they
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thought some might be necessary and wanted that area maintained,whether
it was a hedge or oleanders or so forth, if it would be too late to impose that
kind of condition. Mr. Erwin said it was a matter of going back because the
subdivision map is recorded. If that requirement is there, regardless of
whether this is subdivided and this goes to a different property owner, it is a
matter of record and they are subject to that condition and would be required
to maintain that condition.
Commissioner Tschopp asked if that would be the home owner or the home
owner's association. Mr. Erwin said it could be either, whoever owns the
property. Commissioner Tschopp commented that it would be difficult to
enforce with that many members as opposed to one entity. Mr. Erwin said
that was perhaps true. Commissioner Limont thought that was a really good
point. Commissioner Tschopp asked if it could be conditioned that the home
owner's association live up to the conditions/restrictions of the original
mapping, putting the onus on them to maintain. Mr. Erwin said that would be
a condition they would be imposing that he believed was already there.
Commissioner Tschopp said the homeowner's association would be
responsibfe for making sure that members/the owners maintain hedging if
that was required. Mr. Erwin said that was his understanding of the condition,
yes. Commissioner Limont asked if they could place that as a condition. Mr.
Erwin said it was already a condition, but if they wished to reimpose it, he
thought that would be fine. Chairperson Campbell said it was already there,
so they didn't have to redo it. Mr. Erwin didn't believe they did, but they could
if they wished.
Commissioner Schmidt asked for clarification. She didn't see anything in
writing that said the Portola Avenue easement was eliminated from the
subdivision because of a future road widening. Mr. Stendell acknowledged
it is a complicated issue. Staff removed condition numbertwo that stated that
very clea�ly under Public Works. When this is a project that is getting ready
to move forward, Public Works Department will do what they need to acquire
that land. It should not be a condition of this map that they are not allowing
a subdivision to occur because of a future road widening. Mr. Ervvin stated
that if the City wants that now, they might as well pay for it now and start it,
because if they require this condition, he believed it is a taking and they have
just bought the property. He did not believe it should be done in that manner.
When they do have a project there, they wil{ take whatever action is
necessary to acquire the property. But to reserve it at this time for something
that may occur in the future would create a taking by the City. Commissioner
Schmidt asked if we did that at this time, it would be purchase via the
Association. Mr. Erwin said assuming they were upset about it, and thought
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they probably would be, they would probably file a demand for inverse
condemnation on the property.
Commissioner Schmidt indicated that on the other hand, if they approved
this and someone purchases one or more of those easements along Portola
and at a later time we decide we need that roadway, we would then be
paying whoever purchased it or the Association if they did not purchase it.
Mr. Erwin said that was correct. Commissioner Schmidt said she was
assuming also that the purchase of this easement property that would be
gained would be by an existing homeowner on that property. In other words,
anyone couldn't go buy it. Mr. Stendell said that was correct; it was of value
only to that specific property owner. In some cases the property was only 10-
feet wide and the most was 16 feet wide. Commissioner Schmidt noted there
was one 124 by 143 which is a pretty good size. Mr. Stendell said they are
to be sold back to the individual property owners and were not big enough
to do anything new on.
Commissioner Tschopp asked if staff knew what the intent of the Palm
Desert Greens Association would be if a homeowner decides not to buy the
property directly behind them. Mr. Stendell deferred the question to the
applicant.
Commissioner Limont asked how they make certain that the barrier befinreen
Palm Desert Greens and Suncrest is acceptable to all parties. If they have
20 different homeowners on one side, how do they make sure there is
continuity? Mr. Stendell said it was a case where it's an area only seen by
two property owners. It is not visible from public right-of-way. In this situation,
the City prefers to step back and �et the property owners take care of it. It has
only come up as a mechanism through this map. If Palm Desert had
originally approved the project and it had certain conditions, the City would
go back and enforce them, but in a situation like this, staffwould preferto let
the land owners and the property owners handle it, especially when it
involves interior land.
Chairperson Campbell noted thatthe public hearing was still open and asked
the applicant to address the Commission.
MR. ROY CRON, President of the Palm Desert Greens Homeowners
Association, 39-030 Cudy Circle in Palm Desert, said he was present
to answer any questions. He added that the concern that there would
be a hodge podge of walls on that perimeter would not take place.
They have a strong architectural review committee,that chairman was
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also present, and they were in the process of rewriting and restating
those.As per their CC8�R's,they would include that any walls that are
placed on that perimeter/that easement would be of standard type
construction that would best suit both their neighbor and themselves.
They currently had brown slump stone. Again, this was an interior lot
fine, but they could guarantee what would take place. A homeowner
couldn't build a wall without their approval. They can write those rules
into their guidelines and into their restated rules and regulations.
Chairperson Campbell pointed out that staff said that really had nothing to
do with the application.
Mr. Cron said he couldn't really hear anything that was said, the
acoustics was terrible.
Chairperson Campbell explained thatthe application before the Commission
really had nothing to do with the fencing or fence screening, which was an
interior problem. They were really just talking about the Portola wall.
Mr. Cron reconfirmed that they were talking about the Portola
easement.
Chairperson Campbell concurred.
Mr. Cron said he heard the City Attomey's point of view and what he
thought he heard was that to not okay that portion of the map plan
would not be in anyone's interest at this particular point. He asked if
that was correct.
Mr. Erwin said it wasn't exactly what he said, but was what he meant.
Mr. Cron stated that they had no problem with either direction. If the
City wished to pull the Portola side, they haven't taken a position on
that at all. That property would be owned by the homeowner's
association and they would deal with the City at that particular time.
They would like to see it approved, only because it may or may not
ever happen. It wasn't even in the future forecasting out to the year
2012. If the City does intend to take it, they should have done it
sooner rather than later only because the people living on that
particular easement portion and their realtors have to disclose if they
want to sell their property, and it has a detrimental effect on the
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property value. He asked that they approve the entire map plan,
inciuding the Portola easement.
Commissioner Tschopp asked what the homeowner's association would do
if a property owner doesn't wish to buy the property adjacent to them. Were
there plans on how it will be maintained and what would be done?
Mr. Cron said they can demand that they be maintained. They were
not easy on the violators in their community. If a homeowner didn't
buy that property, the association would still maintain it.
Commissioner Schmidt asked if the property abutting Suncrest was deleted
from the application, what impact that would have on their money raising.
Mr. Cron said it would have a huge impact. He thought there were
about 120 homes on that strip of property that borders Suncrest. It
would have a serious effect on them. They need that map plan
okayed. They worked with Mr. Befeld and would try to work with him.
They tried to get him to the table. His last correspondence to them did
have some interesting points in it and they certainly have asked him
to continue discussions with them and they would be happy to work
with him. They weren't ignoring them,they would do their best to take
care of them.
MS. MARIE BEFELD of Suncrest, 73-450 Country Club Drive, stated
that one of the reasons they are in this right now is that she and
Gerhard have been at Suncrest since 1982. Suncrest was built after
Palm Desert Greens. In those days the County required chain link and
oleanders rather than block wails because block walls would have
scared a lot of developers away. So when they took over Suncrest,
Palm Desert Greens had nice chain link fence and oleanders that
looked great. Pretty soon, for whatever reason, they decided it was
cheaperto let the homeowners maintain the oleanders ratherthan the
Association because it would save them money and somehow that
got passed. Pretty soon some of the homeowners were pulling out the
oleanders because they wanted to see the view or whatever, so at
that time they were trying to fill Suncrest and didn't want to look at a
bunch of back yards, so they took it upon themselves to plant on their
side, and planted oleanders because they make a great barrier. Who
would have known that they would get a disease and start to die? She
felt they wouldn't be in this predicament if the Association had taken
care of what they were supposed to do and not put it onto their home
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owners. Meanwhile, they get complaints from Palm Desert Greens
because Suncrest's oleanders are dying. They are taking them out,
but technically they were supposed to be Palm Desert Greens'
oleanders on their side in that 15 feet. She didn't know what else to
say, but she did think it should be a condition. She didn't think it was
fair for her residents to look at their back yards. If someone was to
build a new project now, if Suncrest wasn't there and Palm Desert
Greens went in, the City would require a wall and then whatever went
in after that, the wall would be there.
She said they weren't insisting on a wall, but something that is
consistent and looks nice. It could be pyracantha, bougainvillea, etc.
They were willing to work with Palm Desert Greens, but they feel
they've maintained something Palm Desert Greens was supposed to
maintain and they've maintained it for 15 years. Now they were
complaining because SuncresYs plants were dying.
Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone else wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOS{TION. There was no one and the public hearing was closed.
Chairperson Campbell asked for Commission comments or action.
Commissioner Limont said it was finro separate issues. In other words, there
was an issue with regard to the two associations and the border/perimeter.
But the issue before them was really granting the tract map. She didn't have
any hesitation as long as it was not going to obligate the City in any way,
shape or form. If iYs already a condition, great, otherwise she'd like to have
it in there.
Commissioner Tschopp thought the project should be approved because it
would be for the common good of the residents of Palm Desert Greens. He
also believed the original intent of the 1971 tract map filing should be
enforced. He wished there was a way to handle Portola now because it
would be much more difficult in the future, but since that's a nebulous date,
they need to move forvvard at this time. Lastly, there are two nice pieces of
property out there and he couldn't encourage the two home owners enough
to get together for the benefit of everyone using the facilities on both sides
of the fence to work it out. He knew they were trying to, but encouraged them
to speed it up and do it.
Commissioner Tanner agreed it is something that needs to be approved. He
thought this was something that could have been taken care of long ago had
there been representation. They tried to get it done two or three meetings
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ago and it kept getting postponed. The issue between Pa{m Desert Greens
and Suncrest couidn't be postponed any longer. Something had to be done.
They need to work together as neighbors and find a way to make both sides
happy. He thought they were moving in that right direction, especially if the
tract map approved in 1971 so indicates and stipulates that there be fencing
and some sort of a blocking between the finro properties. He was in favor of
approving the tract map, but also encouraged them to work a little bit quicker
than what has been displayed over the last three months and get this done.
Commissioner Schmidt had some deep concerns about this. It sounded
great, grand and wonderful on the surface; however, she thought it was
pretty clear that the boundary wall, fence or screening was really a
requirement of Palm Desert Greens. The fact that Suncrest abuts to it now
poses something she didn't think they had thought about. They were
eliminating a minimum of 14 feet along a great periphery of Suncrest, which
means theywere bringing patios orwhateverthey decided to use that ground
for if it is bought that much closerto Suncrest with no barrier/with no setback.
She had problems with approving it and couldn't vote in favor of it because
of the impact it has on a neighbor. Whether or not they share the cost of the
wall or not was not an issue with her, it was the taking of ground for a private
purpose that impacts a neighbor. That wasn't good legislation in her mind.
Chairperson Campbell agreed with the other Commissioners. She thought
the issue of the interior fencing was between the two clubs and asked for a
motion.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, adopting the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-1
(Commissioner Schmidt voted no).
It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2446 approving
Case Nos. TT 35271 and TT 35272, subject to conditions as amended
(deleting Public Works Condition No. 2). Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner
Schmidt voted no).
B. Case No. CUP 07-07 - BEN SPERBER, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit to allow a
freestanding detached accessory structure/motor-home
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
TO: Department of Community Development/Planning
Attention: Ryan Stendell
FROM: Phil Joy, Associate Transportation Planner
SUBJECT: TT 35271 & 35272 Palm Desert Greens Conditions of Approval
DATE: February 14, 2007
1. Complete tract map shall be submitted as required by ordinance to the Director of
Public Works for checking and approval prior to the issuance of any permits.
2. Common Easement shall be maintained on Lots 25 - 66 and the easterly 200 sq. ft.
of Lot 25 of TT 35271 for the future widening of Portola Avenue; and for Lots 136 and
137 and the westerly 200 sq. ft. of Lot 138 of TT 35272 for the purpose of a right-turn
pocket on northbound Monterey Avenue at Frank Sinatra Drive.
Phil Joy
C:IDocuments and SettingslrstendelllLocal SettingslTemporary Inlemet FilesIOLK111TT 35271 35272 PD Gieens I.wpd
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