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MAY 5, 2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Barnard convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Excused Absence
Chairman Michael Barnard Commissioner Julie Munson
Commissioner Phill Babcock
Commissioner Jerry Dawson Absent
Commissioner Randy Guyer Vice Chair Roger Dash
Commissioner Deborah Hall Commissioner Terry Schukart
Commissioner Kim Housken
Staff Present:
John Wohlmuth, City Manager
Homer Croy, ACM for Development Services
Janis Steele, Parks and Recreation Services Manager
Jay Niemczak, Parks Facilities Manager
Ryan Stendell, Senior Management Analyst
Monica Loredo, Administrative Secretary
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A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING FROM APRIL 7, 2009
Minutes of the meeting from April 7, 2009, were approved as
submitted. Motion moved/seconded by Dawson/Hall, and carried by a
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6-0 vote with Vice Chair Dash and Commissioners Munson and
Schukart ABSENT.
IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
V. UPDATES OF PROJECTS/SCHEDULES/BUDGETS/MASTERPLAN
A. WINDSTORM DAMAGE
Ms. Steele reported that there were some trees damaged due to the
windstorm. The most notable damage was the amphitheater, which the
shade structure was totally destroyed. She noted that down trees would
be removed within the next couple of days.
Commissioner Housken mentioned that the trees are inventoried, and
asked if when a tree is removed is it then removed from the inventory. Mr.
Niemczak replied that it is noted in the inventory.
Commissioner Housken inquired how they are identified. Mr. Niemczak
answered that they are identified by diameter, global positioning system
(GPS), and species.
Commissioner Hall asked if the trees are being replaced. Mr. Niemczak
responded that a couple at the soccer park will be replaced, and others
were pruned.
B. AMPHITHEATER UPDATE
Ms. Steele stated that there are pictures of the current condition of the
shade structure in the agenda packet. Most of the shade structure is gone.
She informed the Commission that Staff has communicated with the
vendor that usually does the City's other shade structures for an estimate
to repair the damage. She indicated that the cost to remove the remaining
structure and replacement of only the canvas is estimated to be $215,000.
The price does not include if there is any structural damage. She noted
that a structural engineer would have to be brought in to take a look at it.
Ms. Steele mentioned that the insurance adjuster was out last week. The
adjuster took pictures and received information that he needed.
She recounted that there was a subcommittee formed that consisted of
Councilmembers Benson and Ferguson, Commissioners Dawson and
Guyer, Mr. Carlos Ortega, Mr. Homer Croy, and Staff to discuss a new
design for the amphitheater. Ms. Steele communicated that the
subcommittee came up with a design that was included in the agenda
packet. She mentioned that she brought it up at the City Council study
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session. At the time of the study session, Staff thought that it was going to
cost between $400,000 and $500,000. She now has an exact cost for the
design, which will cost $387,000. Ms. Steele commented that Staff is
going to the City Council meeting on May 7, 2009, to get approval to bid
the project out. The project would include removal of current structure and
shade. She noted that the new design would provide more shade. She
also noted that it may take 13 weeks to replace, and hope to have it done
while they are over-seeding the park.
Commissioner Hall asked how much would be covered by the insurance
company. Mr. Niemczak responded that the insurance would only cover
the canvas part of the shade structure ($215,000).
Commissioner Hall inquired if the insurance would cover the structure if it
turns out that it is damaged. Mr. Niemczak responded that when he talked
to the Risk Manager, he said that the insurance would cover the existing
structure.
Commissioner Hall clarified that if the City does not choose to replace the
shade structure fabric with the new one, does the City still recoup some of
the money. Staff replied yes.
Mr. Rob Ballew, Family YMCA of the Desert, inquired if there still would be
concerts and movies in the park. Ms. Steele responded that the subject
was discussed at the study session, and a decision was made to have the
4th of July event. However, continue looking at having concerts and
movies in the park at a different time of year when it is a little cooler. She
added that the City Council would like a committee or group formed to
take a look at it. It was noted that the program was cut by three percent
(3%).
Commissioner Dawson inquired if there was a cost for inspecting the
shade structure frame. Mr. Niemczak responded no. He mentioned that
the representative stated that it might not be damaged, but they need to
make sure.
Commissioner Dawson commented that the cost could keep going up
matching the cost of tearing the whole thing down. Ms. Steele stated that it
could.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty commented that the best case scenario is
$172,000.00, and could go south from there. Ms. Steele responded that if
they were to replace the whole thing, the estimate cost of $387,000.00 is
to replace the whole structure. The cost could be less depending on the
bids. She noted that the insurance reimbursement is deposited into the
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General Fund or some other fund in the City. She noted when the
structure is replaced the cost would be paid from the Capital Improvement
Project (CIP) funds.
Mr. Tanner, Planning Commissioner, asked why the insurance would only
pay $215,000.00 with a cost of$387,000.00. Ms. Steele answered that the
insurance is only replacing what is damaged, minus a $5,000.00
deductible.
Mr. Tanner inquired if the structure is damaged would the insurance
carrier cover it. Ms. Steele replied yes, it just has to be determined. She
noted that the Risk Manager is working closely with them.
Commission Guyer commented that why it would be necessary to replace
the structure at this time. Ms. Steele responded that it is used a lot.
Aesthetics was also mentioned.
Commissioner Guyer inquired if it was possible to receive and save the
insurance funds until a time there is enough money to build something that
they really want to do, rather than building something right now that they
might not want in five years. He asked if it is possible. Ms. Steele stated
that anything is possible.
Commissioner Guyer commented that the design in the agenda packet
was not everyone's favorite.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty asked if the City is liable if there is another big
windstorm, and the City did not address the structural damage.
Commissioner Guyer stated that in that case, the structure could be taken
down.
Ms. Steele interjected that the amphitheater is used frequently, and there
have been some events recently and it has been very hot.
Commissioner Guyer voiced that he is afraid they are going to be in a
position where they are going to spend the money now, and then four or
five years from now, they are going to say that they could have done
better if they would have waited.
Commissioner Dawson commented that he was confused. He thought the
design is what the committee finalized. Ms. Steele replied that it is.
Commissioner Babcock stated that he does not see how they could move
ahead with a new canvas. He mentioned that they had one design that
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could not pass the� wind test, and is concerned they will have the same
problem. He voiced that the acoustics need to be improved.
Commissioner Dawson remembered from the committee meetings and
decision-making process that they went through several iterations that
included Councilmembers Benson and Ferguson. He indicated that the
committee looked at many different options with the objective of making
sure it was acoustically good so that sound is projected as much as
possible without amplification. In addition, it would not be so susceptible to
wind damage, and aesthetically it would not look commercial but
aesthetically proper for Palm Desert. After all the redoing, the final design
is what is being presented, and the best plan that they could come up
with.
Commissioner Dawson commented that shade projects out the front,
which helps with the acoustics and provides shade to the front. In addition,
it allows for see-through. He indicated that the project was stopped due to
financial problems, and now there is a relief due to the insurance
company. Now there is an impetus to replace it because leaving the
structure might not be as safe and the City would be liable. Commissioner
Dawson stated that they need to act, and recommended taking the
appropriate steps to move forward.
Chairman Barnard informed that Commission that Mayor Pro Tem Finerty
is sitting in while Mayor Spiegel is on vacation. He also noted that the City
Manager is also present.
C. APRIL PARK INSPECTIONS
Ms. Steele reported that the inspections are included in the packet, and
asked the Commission if they had any questions.
She mentioned that there was a suggestion to add signage with the
distance of the trail at Ironwood Park. Ms. Steele indicated that they would
probably add signage at all the parks because they constantly get asked.
Commissioner Hall commented that she inspected Washington Charter,
but did not fax the form. She mentioned that the park gets a lot of use due
to the school, and there is a lot of wear and tear. Commissioner Hall
inquired if the toughest grass is being used. Mr. Niemczak responded that
they plant Bermuda in the summer, which is pretty tough. They try to
overseed the park during the winter time, but there is not enough time for
the grass to come in before the kids are back on it.
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Ms. Steele noted that the Washington Charter playground is on the five-
year CIP replacement plan, and due to be updated this year. If the budget
is approved in June, funds will be available.
D. CIVIC CENTER OVER-SEEDING SCHEDULE
Ms. Steele reported that the schedule has to be determined early on
because it has to be included in the park maintenance contract, and in
meetings with the user groups. She briefly went over the schedule.
Mr. Tanner asked about over-seeding at Hovley Soccer Park. Mr.
Niemczak responded that they do not normally over-seed it, but they will
throw some rye down so that it does not get too bad.
Commissioner Guyer asked Ms. Steele how other cities handle that
situation. She replied that they do not over-seed. She noted that La Quinta
was asking her what we do because our soccer park looks nice compared
to most. Ms. Steele mentioned that it helps when they close it down for the
summer.
E. ECONOMIC IMPACT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
Ms. Steele stated that she provided information regarding the economic
impact of parks and recreation. She asked the Commission to identify finro
or three points that they feel are important, and that can be utilized to
market the parks and/or programs. She will then bring the item back to the
next meeting for discussion.
Commissioner Housken asked Ms. Steele if she wanted the list now or
something written. She answered that she would like to have it written so
that she could put something together, and they could all discuss it. Ms.
Steele said that they could also be faxed in with the park inspections.
Chairman Barnard gave a deadline of May 15.
Commissioner Guyer clarified that what Ms. Steele wants from the
Commission is to use what they already have. She replied yes.
Commissioner Housken commented that she went through the
information. She wondered if the parks are for Palm Desert residents or
are the parks more for economic development, specifically tourism. She
found the balance of both fascinating considering what Palm Desert does
represent. Commissioner Housken stated that she was struggling with
that.
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Chairman Barnard inquired if the Marketing Committee ever looks at the
parks. Ms. Steele responded that she does not recall. She commented
that was one of the things that she thought of. If they come up with a
priority list, they can take it to the Marketing Committee.
Commissioner Babcock commented that while traveling around on his
bike to other cities and towns that had parks, he found that people
seemed to be calmer and nicer. He noted that it was not a scientific
method. It was an observation that he and his wife made while they would
stop to have lunch in the parks.
Commissioner Housken mentioned that she found it interesting that one of
the statements said, "2/3 of the people live on golf courses do not play
golf." She noted that to her, that ventures into planning issues and the
balance of open space versus sustainability and increasing density. There
are a lot of issues that are tied together. Commissioner Housken felt that
they should address "GRAMPIES": Growing [number of] Retired Active
Monies People In Excellent Shape).
Commissioner Dawson thanked Ms. Steele for bringing the whole concept
to the Commission. He believes the discussion and the result from the
discussions will be materially effective.
Chairman Barnard requested that the Commission give their written
comments to Ms. Steele so that they could be added to the agenda in
June.
F. IRONWOOD IRRIGATION CLOCK
Mr. Niemczak reported that a Calsense irrigation controller is going to be
installed at Ironwood Park. The system monitors the irrigation, valves, and
lines. He noted that Ironwood Park is the last park being retrofitted with
the Calsense system.
Ms. Steele commented that at Ironwood Park there is a well site on the
corner as you face the park off to the far left corner. She noted that the
well site is owned by Bighorn, and they need to do some dritling. Bighorn
is contacting the surrounding residents. Additionally, there are other
issues with different City departments. She informed the Commission that
once it moves forward, Bighorn is going to tear down the wall on the
backside of the well site; and will need to disturb park landscaping to
install sound barriers. Staff has gone out to Ironwood to take pictures of
current landscape. They made a list of all plant species and the costs for
plant replacement including irrigation. Bighorn is willing to replace
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everything as it was before. She noted that work may begin before the
next Commission meeting.
Commissioner Hall asked if they will be replacing the block wall. Ms.
Steele replied yes.
Commissioner Housken commented that at the south end of the Ironwood
Park parking lot there is another well that is not being used by Bighorn that
they only have an easement for. She said that she is not sure if that is
something that Parks and Recreation might be interested in discussing
with Bighorn to reclaim that area since they do not anticipate using it in the
future.
G. LOCAL ARTIST SHOWCASE AT THE CIVIC CENTER PARK
Ms. Steele mentioned that she received a call from Mr. Mike Aspell saying
that they are interested in participating in the showcase. She
communicated that Mr. Aspell also has a band, and has contacts with
music stores. He is interested in assisting 1201 Collective by offering their
services free of charge. Ms. Steele stated that this item would be going to
the City Council meeting on May 21. She noted that Mr. Aspell would be at
the Council meeting. She explained that they are proposing a series of five
concerts in August and the first week September, from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m.
on Friday nights. Ms. Steele reminded the Commission that Commissioner
Schukart suggested at the last meeting to contact the Public Safety
Academy to find out if the Explorers would be available to be present at
the concerts.
Commissioner Guyer inquired if there would be a battle befinreen Mr.
Aspell's group and 1201 Collective. Ms. Steele replied that she did not
think so. She stated that she spoke with Mr. White with the 1201
Collective, and he is excited to work with Mr. Aspell.
Commissioner Hall asked if the replacement of the amphitheater would
affect the group. Ms. Steele answered that the structure would not be
there, and the group did not seem to mind.
H. PICKLEBALL
Mr. Niemczak reported that at the February 26 City Council meeting, the
Council rejected the Hovley Soccer Park project of building additional
amenities with one of the amenities being pickleball. He communicated
that a resident that plays pickleball attended the Council meeting, and
recommended converting the Cahuilla Hills tennis courts into four
permanent pickleball courts for an approximate cost of$3,000.00.
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After the meeting, Staff received many calls from tennis players not
wanting the tennis courts changed into pickleball courts. As an alternative,
Staff identified the community gardens area at University Park East to
accommodate a new pickleball court.
Ms. Steele stated that the Mayor requested that this item be taken back to
the City Council on May 7. She also noted that there is a study session in
the Administrative Conference Room on May 7 at 2:30 p.m. with a
presentation of a video that demonstrates how pickleball is played.
Commissioner Dawson asked if the project at Hovley Soccer Park is on
hold. Ms. Steele replied that the project was not approved by the City
Council.
Commissioner Dawson inquired if it was not approved due to the cost. Ms.
Steele answered yes.
Ms. Steele noted that the residents near Cahuilla Hills were not excited
when pickleball lines were painted on the courts about a year ago.
Commissioner Dawson commented that pickleball is a growing sport, and
more people are going to want permanent courts. He mentioned that even
if the courts are built at University Park East, and there is money in the
future to build courts at Hovley Soccer Park; there still may not be enough
courts three or four years from now. He feels that they would be in good
shape with this plan.
Commissioner Babcock inquired if there are any real figures on how many
people are playing tennis and pickleball. He mentioned that when he takes
his dogs to the dog park, he does not see many people playing tennis. He
thinks there are still more tennis players than pickleball players.
Commissioner Guyer voiced that he does not see the City being able to
dedicate anything to either one of them. They are going to have to figure
out how the could co-exist like a gymnasium co-exists with basketball,
volleyball, etc. because they cannot afford to build tennis courts and
pickleball courts for both groups. It is going to be a scheduling situation.
Mr. Niemczak voiced that the tennis players biggest concern is the height
of the net because it is not put back to the correct height.
Commissioner Guyer stated that he understood that the pickfeball players
have a quick and easy way of changing the net heights. He commented
that they have to work in a direction where they could co-exist.
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Commissioner Hall asked why the tennis players do not like the striping.
Ms. Steele responded that the lines are confusing to them. She mentioned
that Staff was asked to take a look at Freedom Park as well for dual
usage, and that they are currently looking at costs.
Commissioner Housken inquired if the pickleball court at University Park is
for a single court, and what the total cost for the project at Hovley Soccer
Park. Ms. Steele responded that the cost at Hovley Soccer Park was
$175,000.00. The cost included a community garden at Hovley Soccer
Park and University Park, horseshoe pits, petanque courts, and shaded
picnic areas.
Commissioner Housken stated that $20,000.00 seems like a lot for a
single court. In her opinion, she rather spend more money and have
several courts dedicated to pickleball. It seems like an expensive
experiment to see if there is a big need for pickleball. She noted that she
plays tennis at the Civic Center Park on most Wednesdays. There are six
courts, and rarely are all six courts being used. She suggested maybe
surveying the Civic Center tennis courts to find out how often the courts
are used.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty stated that if the item is on the City Council
agenda for May 7, she would like a vote on restriping one of the six tennis
courts to two pickleball courts at the Civic Center Park. She commented
that most people are going to think it is too far to drive to University Park,
plus it is too windy. She stated that it is too much money and a poor
location.
Mr. Tanner commented that he seldom sees the Freedom Park tennis
courts being utilized, and it might be something that Staff may want to look
at too.
Chairman Barnard clarified if they are looking at restriping one tennis court
at the Civic Center and one at Freedom Park.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty interjected that she would like to start with Civic
Center Park by adding two pickleball courts rather than messing up one
tennis court with the lines. She stated that she would like the
Commission's recommendation if it is going to the City Council on May 7.
Commissioner Hall inquired if stripes would be painted on the tennis court
or would it be changed to a pickleball court. Ms. Steele responded that for
one court it can be restriped. For two pickleball courts, they would need to
remove the tennis court.
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Commissioner Guyer elucidated that Mayor Pro Tem Finerty suggested
taking out one tennis court and adding two pickleball courts.
Ms. Steele commented that is what she is hearing.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty stated that is an option. She affirmed that the two
pickfeball courts are an option. She noted that the Council would like
feedback from the Commission so that they can determine what they
need.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty added that she remembers Mayor Spiegel saying
that people are going to use what's within a three-mile radius of their
home.
Ms. Steele interjected that the Cahuilla Hills tennis courts are not close to
anyone, and they are used quite frequently.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty commented that with the wind, University Park is
not her ideal area.
Commissioner Dawson asked what the cost would be to change out a
tennis court at the Civic Center. Ms. Steele replied that she did not know.
Commissioner Housken inquired if the YMCA is having pickleball classes.
Ms. Steele answered that no one is having classes at this time. She noted
that the Desert Recreation District had pickleball classes, but no longer is.
Mr. Chris Thomas, pickleball representative, commented that the only
pickleball classes will be offered at College of the Desert (COD). It will be
indoors during the summer.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty asked what lines are being used at COD, and if
the class will be in the gymnasium. Mr. Thomas responded yes. He
explained that they have six badminton courts that are the same size as
pickleball courts. All that has to be done is lower the net.
Mr. Thomas stated that he agrees with Mayor Pro Tem Finerty that
University Park is too windy. He noted that Freedom Park came up at a
Commission meeting in April 2008, and the Commission said Freedom
Park is too windy. He feels it is just as windy at Freedom Park, but more
so at University Park. Mr. Thomas commented that in terms of usage, he
is up to 23 days. Although it was not an independent survey, morning
usage pickleball versus tennis at 7:30 or 9:00 a.m. for two hours, there are
ten pickleball players to one tennis player. If the City considers taking one
tennis court at the Civic Center and converting it into a pickleball court, he
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suggested making it into four pickleball courts. He noted it has been done
in San Diego. He feels that at least two pickleball courts would cover the
needs of pickleball players. If you have four courts, you can offer free
clinics and mini valley tournaments.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty suggested that Mr. Thomas attend the next City
Council meeting.
Mr. Thomas mentioned that the notice for the study session states that the
City Council is going to meet in the parking lot then go out to the tennis
courts.
Ms. Steele interjected that the study session is going to be in
Administrative Conference Room.
Mr. Thomas asked if there is a DVD being provided to demonstrate
pickleball. Staff replied yes.
Commissioner Guyer asked Mr. Thomas to explain what it takes to
convert a tennis court to a pickleball court. Mr. Thomas explained that at
Cahuilla Hills the lines are painted for pickleball. He takes a bungee cord
and puts it on the top, and clips it down at the metal brace at the bottom to
34 inches. Once they are through, he takes off the bungee cord and
leaves. He noted that as long as they put the net back, the tennis players
don't care. He also noted that it is 36 inches for tennis and 34 inches for
pickleball in the center.
Commissioner Guyer inquired if the change makes any difference in the
net after he leaves. Mr. Thomas replied no. It goes back to where it was.
Commissioner Guyer commented that it is pretty easy for both tennis and
pickleball to co-exist as long as the lines are down. Mr. Thomas agreed.
Commissioner Guyer moved to add Pickleball to Unfinished
Business (see below). Commissioner Housken seconded the motion,
and carried by a 6-0 vote with Vice Chair Dash and Commissioners
Munson and Schukart ABSENT.
I. SOCCER PARK FERTIGATION
Mr. Niemczak explained that fertigation is a way to inject fertilizer into the
main irrigation line. He mentioned the system is new, and that it is
reasonable to try it out at Hovley Soccer Park. The system allows for more
uniform application of fertilizer, and eliminates growth spikes associated
with granular fertilizer.
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Commissioner Guyer asked if there is a safety issue between a granular
and liquid fertilizer. Mr. Niemczak responded that there is not. It would be
a safety issue if pesticides were involved, which are not.
J. STATUS UPDATES
Ms. Steele went through the list of status updates provided in the agenda.
She mentioned the extra patrol during the Easter holiday.
Commissioner Dawson commented that he gets a sense that Staff and the
Police Department are working well together. Ms. Steele agreed. They
have been very helpful when they have had vandalism in the parks.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty asked if there would be a no drinking policy during
the Local Artist Showcase. Ms. Steele replied absolutely, there is no
alcohol drinking in the park anyway, and Staff would never recommend
that.
Ms. Steele continued to go through the updates.
Commissioner Babcock inquired if the Police Department still go by Joe
Mann Park, and are they doing any good. Ms. Steele answered yes. They
are being very responsive and are aware of things going on.
Commissioner Babcock asked if the police are there every night and if any
citations have been given out. Ms. Steele responded that she does not
know when the police drive by, and that nothing major has occurred at the
park, just maybe some graffiti. She stated that she can not dictate to them
to get out of their patrol cars.
Chairman Barnard interjected that the police cannot be there 24 hours.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty mentioned that it is not just a park problem, it is a
neighborhood problem. She noted that Lt. Taylor implemented a
neighborhood watch program, and mentioned that the officers are going to
patrol at different hours because it is a deterrent affect.
Ms. Steele noted that the Opera in the Park would be going to the City
Council meeting on May 21. The program is scheduled for April 2010.
Commissioner Housken inquired about the California Parks and
Recreation Society (CPRS) conference in 2010. Ms. Steele responded
that the annual conference is being held in Palm Springs for the first time
ever in March 2010. She mentioned that she is a local host chair. Ms.
Steele indicated that since Staff is part of it, the City would be able to get
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Staff and Commissioners into the conference at no cost. She would add
additional information in the next agenda.
Commissioner Guyer inquired if Mr. Schuler is still working on the trails.
Ms. Steele responded that he is.
Mr. Niemczak interjected that Mr. Schuler has completed a lot of the
washed out areas. Once the washouts are completed, he will start on the
turnouts.
Chairman Barnard affirmed that the City of Rancho Mirage was paying for
the turnouts. Mr. Niemczak answered yes.
K. DESERT RECREATION DISTRICT CONTRACT UPDATE
(ORAL REPORT)
Ms. Steele stated that she met with the District after the agenda had been
sent out, but would have a written report for the meeting in June. She
communicated that Staff was asked to revisit the contract with the District.
She mentioned that there are many outdated sections of the current
contract. Both the City and the District are working on revisions to the
contract, and agreed to meet again at the end of May. She indicated that
she would at least provide a draft of the City's sections of the contract for
the next meeting.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty inquired if Staff is continuing to look at the money
that is spent versus the programs that are available to Palm Desert. Ms.
Steele responded that she has not done a recent study. She stated that a
study was done two years ago by Ms. Jenny Barnes from the Finance
Department. She said that she would include the information in the next
agenda packet. Ms. Steele commented that she has not looked at it again
because she was told not to do anything with that at this point.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty asked Ms. Steele who told her not to do anything.
She responded that she was directed by the City Manager to wait and
see, and he would direct her when to move forward again.
Mr. Croy explained that Staff had started to move in one direction, but
then the previous City Manager requested that Staff hold off on any
decisions until the City could pass the budget issues. Once that was done,
Staff was going to look at the amount of money that the City pays the
District now for services they are providing. When the information is
collected, Staff will present it to the City Manager and he would probably
take it the City Council.
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Mayor Pro Tem Finerty reaffirmed that it would be forthcoming. Ms. Steele
replied yes.
L. FAMILY YMCA OF THE DESERT UPDATE
Ms. Steele commented that she included information and press releases
from the YMCA in the agenda packet, and that Mr. Ballew had a DVD to
show the Commission.
Mr. Ballew stated that the day before Easter, the YMCA hosted a valley-
wide Easter Egg Hunt and immediately following they had Healthy Kids
Day. The same day, the City had Arbor Day. He mentioned that they were
prepared for approximately 800 kids, and it quickly became about 1,200
kids. Mr. Ballew showed the DVD to the Commission, and explained the
"Y Be FiY' program.
Mr. Ballew communicated that during spring break, the YMCA offered free
swim lessons to Palm Desert High School and all junior high schools
students that do not know how to swim. He mentioned that there are now
48 students that are waterproof. He commented that they finished their
"Sustaining Campaign." Their goal was $440,000.00, and as of last Friday
they reached that goal. Mr. Ballew stated that it would go back into the
community during a really tough year. They are also providing family
nights (three times a year) to give parents a chance to get out. He
mentioned the YMCA was not able to reach their obligation to raise money
for the regional center in Rancho Mirage. They are still committed to a
regional center somewhere in the valley, and would look at other
opportunities.
M. NEWS ARTICLES
No comments.
VI. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION BYLAWS
Discussion and recommendation to the City Council to approve
changes to the Parks and Recreation Commission bylaws.
Ms. Steele stated that Staff made changes to the bylaws that were
recommended by the Commission. The Secretary retyped the bylaws
based on the information received by the Commission, the City Clerk, and
the City Attorney. She noted that the changes are highlighted in yellow in
the agenda packet, and asked the Commission if they had any questions.
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Commissioner Housken thanked Commissioners Guyer and Hail for
tackling the bylaws. She commented that the bylaws referred to the Desert
Recreation District as the Coachella Valley Recreation and Park District
(CVRPD), and asked if it should be re-titled. Ms. Steele responded that
CVRPD is their official name. Since it is their formal name, Staff decided
to leave it that way.
Chairman Barnard also thanked Commissioner Guyer and Hall for their
work updating the bylaws.
Ms. Steele commented that Ms. Loredo did a fair amount of work in
following up with the City Clerk, City Attorney, and looking up sections of
the City's municipal code.
Commissioner Dawson moved to accept the updated Parks and
Recreation Commission bylaws and forward to the City Council for
approval. Commissioner Hall seconded the motion, and carried by a
6-0 vote with Vice Chair Dash and Commissioners Munson and
Schukart ABSENT.
B. PICKLEBALL AT THE CIVIC CENTER PARK
Discussion and recommendation to add pickleball courts at the
Civic Center Park.
(See discussion under Updates of Projects above)
Commissioner Guyer moved to recommend that Staff look into
converting one tennis court at the Civic Center to either two or four
pickleball courts and presenting it to the City Council. Commissioner
Dawson seconded the motion, and carried by a 6-0 vote with Vice
Chair Dash and Commissioners Munson and Schukart ABSENT.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. SUMMER PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETINGS
Discussion and recommendation to go dark in July and
recommence meetings in August.
Ms. Steele commented that the Commission has done a couple of
different things for meetings during the summer. She noted that she did
not know when the City Council would be going dark.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty interjected that they are going dark the first
meeting in July and will hold the second meeting in August.
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Ms. Steele informed the Commission that Staff is recommending going
dark for the meeting on July 7, 2009, and resume meetings on August 4,
2009.
Commissioner Housken stated that her husband works through July, and
they are typically gone in August. She stated that she prefers to miss the
August meeting.
Commissioner Hall inquired if the City has to do anything working with the
schools or the parks in August because of the schools starting in
September. Ms. Steele responded that there should not be.
Commissioner Dawson .asked if the meeting in July or August impact
Staff. Ms. Steele answered that Ms. Loredo and she will be gone in July.
She noted her goal with the District contract is to take to the City Council
in August.
Commissioner Housken suggested scheduling the second meeting of July
so that it is not so lengthily between meetings. Ms. Steele replied that she
was fine with that.
Commissioner Hall commented that she would be out of town on July 21.
Ms. Steele clarified that the July 21 meeting replaces the July 7 and
August 4 meetings. Commissioner Guyer replied that is how he
understands it.
Commissioner Guyer moved to change the Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting from July 7 to July 21, and cancel the August 4
meeting. Commissioner Housken seconded the motion, and carried
by a 6-0 vote with Vice Chair Dash and Commissioners Munson and
Schukart ABSENT.
Chairman Barnard reaffirmed that there will be a meeting on July 21, and
the following meeting will be September 1.
VIII. COMMENTS
Commissioner Housken commented that it was great working with Mr.
Knight and Ms. Hollinger for Arbor Day. She mentioned that Ms. Steele
and Mr. Niemczak did a tremendous job with the celebration that was in
the Civic Center Park on April 11. She thanked Staff for their work.
Commissioner Dawson commented that many years ago the Commission
discussed bringing high school students to sit in the Commission
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meetings. They will learn a little about the manipulations of city
government. He feels that the Commission would learn from them, and the
students would learn a great deal. He suggested taking a look at it again.
Commissioner Guyer mentioned that he thought there is a group involved
with the Council.
It was mentioned that there is a Youth Committee.
Commissioner Dawson asked if the Youth Committee meets with any of
the Commissions. Ms. Steele responded that they meet as a Committee
themselves.
Mayor Pro Tem Finerty added that they go out and do different events.
Commissioner Dawson commented that he sees that as a totally different
function. He said that he is talking more of a knowledge gaining
involvement.
Commissioner Guyer suggested students from the College of the Desert
that are studying in the Parks and Recreation field.
Ms. Steele stated that she could add to next Commission agenda.
Commissioner Dawson asked Ms. Steele if she would have enough time
before the next meeting to contact the high school for guidance.
Commissioner Housken afso suggested talking to the high school home
program at Desert Sands.
Chairman Barnard stated that the item will be added to the next agenda.
Commissioner Dawson mentioned for the benefit of casual bikers, parks
are wonderful because there are bike racks, water, and restrooms. The
parks are not promoted to bikers, but he said if there are bike routes, he
could see a family going from their home to a park then to another park if
the City were to give them a map that show the routes they can take.
Ms. Steele voiced that she heard Commissioner Dawson volunteer for the
Bicycle Friendly Community Committee. She asked the Commission to let
her know if anyone else is interested.
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IX. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Commissioner Guyer, seconded by Commissioner Hall,
the meeting was adjourned at 10:14 a.m.
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Monica Loredo, Recording Secretary
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