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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks & Rec Cmsn - 04/07/09 CITY OF PALM DESERT �"�•�� PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION � � MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 I. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Barnard convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m. II. ROLL CALL Present: Excused Absence Chairman Michael Barnard Commissioner Julie Munson Vice Chair Roger Dash Commissioner Phill Babcock Commissioner Jerry Dawson Commissioner Randy Guyer Commissioner Deborah Hall Commissioner Kim Housken Commissioner Terry Schukart Staff Present: Homer Croy, ACM for Development Services Janis Steele, Parks and Recreation Services Manager Jay Niemczak, Parks Facilities Manager Ryan Stendell, Senior Management Analyst Angelica Chavez, Office Assistant CITY COLJNCILACTION Guests: AP6�ROV ED �F;NI�'� Bob Spiegel, Mayor R�CI;(VE[) a F� � o'���r:it Barb Adair, Desert Recreation District Craig De Witt, Desert Recreation Distri�FETING DATE -`�-��-�' AYES: Mike Brazil, Desert Recreation District �s� \ ��5� Fi�1�r r�,=;��� Patrick Evans, Sluggers Training Cente�oEs: ���. Chris Thomas, Palm Desert Pickleball F���T' ���'� Steve Sims, GoBike USA A AIN:N���-- Gina Tenorio, The Desert Sun VI�:I2IFIED BY:��/ ��_ Original on File with City Clerk's Office III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING FROM MARCH 3, 2009 1 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Housken noted that she had a correction to the second paragraph on page 13. She meant to say "two unexcused absences." Minutes of the meeting from March 3, 2009, were approved with the correction as noted. Motion moved by Commissioner Dawson, seconded by Commissioner Schukart, and carried by an 8-0 vote with Commissioner Munson ABSENT. IV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Mr. Patrick Evans, Sluggers Training Center, addressed the Commission. He indicated that they have a 10,000 sq. ft. indoor-turfed facility where they train softball and baseball players in all aspects of the game of baseball. Since they have that facility, he would like to create partnerships with the City of Palm Desert. Mayor Spiegel asked where this facility is located. Mr. Evans answered that they are behind the Sam's Club on Dinah Shore. Mayor Spiegel asked if this is a membership only facility. Mr. Evans indicated that they do have a membership base, but would also be able to offer services a la carte, so that residents could come in and play. He added that he knows Mr. Richard Weintraub, President of the Palm Desert Youth Sports Association, and they could work together. Ms. Steele stated that Staff is always looking for opportunities to create partnerships that would provide recreational activities in the community. Commissioner Schukart asked if Mr. Evans wants the City to donate land that he can use to develop fields. Mr. Evans answered that would great, but he is looking to create a partnership with the City. Mayor Spiegel commented that Commissioner Schukart is the Athletic Director at College of the Desert (COD), and asked if they would be allowed to use the Sluggers training facility. Mr. Evans responded yes. Commissioner Schukart noted that Mr. Evans could use COD's training fields to schedule activities also. Mr. Evans indicated that he is looking at the big picture in terms of drawing business from out of state to the area. He indicated that the goal is to invite people from all states to the desert. 2 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DafalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Housken asked if Mr. Evans is considering programming for the off-season. Mr. Evans said that he would like to start with a tournament and grow from there. Chairman Barnard thanked Mr. Evans for his comments. V. UPDATES OF PROJECTS/SCHEDULES/BUDGETS/MASTERPLAN A. CIVIC CENTER PARK WATER FEATURE Ms. Janis Steele indicated that the water feature at the Civic Center Park playground was creating a water back up problem. Staff looked for cost- effective solutions to this situation, and in collaboration with the Public Works Department, re-routed the water to the sewer. Ms. Steele noted that this is the most popular feature in the park. Commissioner Guyer asked if someone misjudged the use of the water runoff. Mr. Jay Niemczak, Parks Facilities Manager, explained that originally, the water was supposed to percolate in the drywell, but it could not handle the amount of water. It overflows and creates a water nuisance issue. Commissioner Guyer advised that this is an issue that could be planned for in the future. Ms. Steele indicated that the best approach is to re- circulate the water and treat it. Vice-chair Dash asked what the cost of re-circulating the water was. Ms. Steele said that approximately $160,000, which included the addition of some other water features. Due to the current state of the economy, Staff did not consider it prudent to go ahead and opted for the most cost- effective option. Commissioner Guyer added that with the upcoming tier pricing for water rates, it would make sense to take in consideration the cost of water in the future. Ms. Steele concurred that water re-circulation is the best option. B. FREEDOM PARK SKATE PARK Ms. Janis Steele informed the Commission that the skate park at Freedom Park was designed with features that were bolted down. Nonetheless, users move the components around, and after putting them back many times, Staff posted notices indicating that these would be stored away if they continued to be removed. 3 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Ms. Steele added that at conferences that Staff attends, they have seen vendors that provide skate park features. Staff talked to one of these vendors to receive a bid or cost estimate for concrete park features. Chairman Barnard invited questions from the Commissioner regarding this item. Commissioner Dawson asked if the features were rebuilt, would they be the same size. Ms. Steele answered yes. Mr. Niemczak mentioned that Staff thought about replacing the skate park with a water feature instead. He noted that the volleyball sand court is subject to high winds and the sand is spread all over the park due to the high winds. Mayor Spiegel suggested installing cameras in the area. Mr. Niemczak said that Staff could install signs indicating the area is under surveillance. Ms. Steele added that Staff could also talk to Lt. Shouse, Chief of Police. Commissioner Guyer added that penalties could also be imposed on violators or people caught moving the features around. Commissioner Hall asked if Staff knew the reasons why users are moving the features around. Is it to use them? Mr. Niemczak answered that Staff does not know. Commissioner Dawson asked if the sand volleyball court is used much. Commissioner Guyer indicated that it is not. Commissioner Dawson suggested that the skate park could be extended to the volleyball court. Chairman Barnard agreed since they are next to each other. Mr. Niemczak added that Staff could put the skate park components there. He added that right now the sand is blown all over the park. Commissioner Dawson suggested that a gentle skate park could be installed with all gear in place. C. IRONWOOD PARK PLAYGROUND Ms. Steele invited the Commission to visit the Ironwood Park to see the new playground. She expressed that in her opinion, this is one of the nicest playgrounds in the City, and mentioned that the shade structure is very nice too. 4 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord OatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Babcock commented that he observed that after a dog training session at this park, there were about eight dogs that were allowed to run loose in the park at the end of the session. He thought that was unusual and just wanted to mention it for the Commission's information. D. IRONWOOD PARK PAVILIONS Mr. Niemczak shared with the Commission that Staff noticed that the paint in the pavilions was deteriorating, so a proposal for repainting them was posted, and Zamora Painting was the successful bidder. Mr. Niemczak showed pictures of the newly painted pavilions. E. INTERNATIONAL SPORTS FESTIVAL EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Ms. Steele invited Ms. Barb Adair to report to the Commission. Ms. Adair thanked the Commission and indicated that they work closely with the Tennis Association who wants to change the International Sports Festival to the month of April. She added that this year the event attracted up to 1,100 athletes, but some sports were dropped. Ms. Adair indicated that postage was one of the biggest costs, at $18,000 for mailing the registration packet. She noted that marketing efforts were productive, and that KESQ targeted the local community. Ms. Adair mentioned that this year the there was some staff transition from last year's festival. The District worked with the Living Desert's event coordinator, used volunteers, and local students to help with the festival. Ms. Adair thanked the Commission for their support, and Ms. Steele, who helped work with the City's Marketing Committee. Ms. Adair introduced Mr. Mike Brazil, Desert Recreation District. Mr. Brazil thanked the Commission for their support. He added that it takes many community people to make this event happen, and most people are behind the scenes, such as the Parks and Recreation Commission. Commissioner Schukart noted that COD has hosted the games this year and in years past, and that the gym was donated for games held on Sunday. Mr. Brazil agreed that COD has been a great support. 5 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks6ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Housken asked what events were held at University Park. Mr. Brazil answered that the 5K run. He added that even though it was a rainy day, people were ready to go. Ms. Adair noted that refunds were issued for those athletes that did not participate because of the rain. Commissioner Guyer asked if they reach out to senior communities like Sun City. Mr. Brazil answered that it was difficult marketing to and holding the games in gated communities. Mr. Brazil stated that they analyzed what was being done in team sports, made some changes, and volleyball turned out to be one of the largest events for Saturday and Sunday both in Indio and Palm Desert. He guessed that this sport alone brought 250 guests. He added that pickleball brought another 200 guests. Commissioner Guyer asked if pickleball players were 50 years old and over. Mr. De Witt indicated that they had individual ranges of 35-40, and the bulk of the players were 50 and over. Mr. Brazil commented that Mr. Chris Thomas did a great job converting the tennis courts at the Civic Center Park into twelve pickleball courts. Mr. Brazil offered his support to COD with equipment or anything that they might need to give back to COD. Mr. Brazil added that volleyball had a big increase this year as well as basketball with the addition of the 35 and older category, which drew teams from Riverside and San Bernardino. Commissioner Guyer asked what the impact of changing the dates to April would be. Mr. Brazil answered that the weather would be the greatest factor because in April it gets hot for most people, but noted that it is hard to say, because most athletes want to compete and if they have a good stage, they will want to compete regardless of the temperature change. Mr. Brazil pointed out that the current economy affected many people, and they were fearful of the impact on this year's games. They are hopeful that next year things turn around, that there is a greater response and the change in weather will have no impact in attendance to the games. Mayor Spiegel thought that the change would be sensational, because it is after all the events that happen in the valley are over, such as the Bob Hope Classic, Dinah Shore, and the tennis tournament. Especially having it after Easter, it could draw a great crowd. Mr. Brazil agreed that those 6 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 other events happening in the valley could be used as a marketing platform to get the word out. Commissioner Guyer mentioned that there are other tournaments scheduled around the same time in April, such as Saint George, which is huge. Ms. Adair answered that tournament is held in October. She indicated that there are other tournaments in San Diego and they are trying to work with the Southern California clusters. Mayor Spiegel asked if there is chance to get the state games. Ms. Adair answered that they are trying to do so. Mr. Brazil added that is why they sanction events so that athletes can record their scores and times. Mayor Spiegel asked what the total number of participants was. Mr. Brazil indicated that approximately 1,137. Commissioner Guyer commented that they were about ten men's volleyball teams. He noted this is the first time that in Southern California there have been these many teams at an event. He added that these team members live in San Diego and Los Angeles, so the District staff did a great job in drawing these players to the valley. Ms. Adair thanked Commissioner Guyer for giving them the contact number for the volleyball organization. She added that they had 17 women's teams as well. Mr. Brazil commented that they were very encouraged with the draw for volleyball. Commissioner Guyer commented that they could build on this response. Mayor Spiegel asked if they have held tennis at Palm Valley Country Club. Ms. Adair answered no, but that it would be a great venue. Mayor Spiegel noted that many players live there that play in the tournament. He added that Vice Chair Dash lives in Palm Valley Country Club. Vice Chair Dash thought that was a great idea and offered to help. Commissioner Housken asked when and where the state games are held. Mr. Brazil said that they are held during the late summer in San Francisco. Ms. Adair indicated that these rotate based on location. Commissioner Housken commented that it would be great to have them here. Commissioner Guyer added that there are national games that require state games qualification. Mr. Brazil indicated that is the ultimate goal, and this type of event would require having the capacity to provide venues in top shape to accommodate the large gathering of athletes. Chairman Barnard thanked Mr. Brazil and Ms. Adair for their presentation. 7 G:1DevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParksBReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09_min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 F. PARKS MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS Ms. Steele informed the Commission that Staff is requesting bids for the park maintenance contract starting July 1, 2009. Given the size of the parks and in light of the previous contractor declaring bankruptcy, Staff and Parks Inspectors thought that separating the parks into three different areas: North, Central, and South would be a good idea. Ms. Steele explained that a request for bids was posted on March 24, a pre-bid meeting was held on April 1, and an additional pre-bid meeting will take place on April 14. Ms. Steele pointed out that the contract was changed slightly, with the frequency schedules being the main difference in each contract for the various parks based on level of use. Mayor Spiegel asked what was the amount spent last year on the park maintenance contract. Ms. Steele answered that last year Civic Center Park alone cost $190,000 just for maintenance. Mr. Niemczak added that last year the City parks annual maintenance contract was $458,000 plus $51,000 for extras. Ms. Steele indicated that extras are things that come up such as irrigation systems that break, trees that are damaged with windstorms, etc. In addition, Ms. Steele noted that there were separate contracts to clean the basketball and tennis courts. Ms. Steele indicated that the contractors do many things besides park maintenance, such as empty trash very early in the morning, power wash playgrounds and other things. She added that these contractors are very valuable, and Staff is happy with the current contractor but they have to go out to bid per City ordinance. She indicated that the contract goes out to bid every year with the option to extend one year. Mayor Spiegel commented that the City Council is decreasing this year's budget by $8 million. Last year the City's budget was $52 million and they want to bring it down to $44 million. He indicated that maintenance is a big problem, but the City parks are one of the best things going on in the City. He noted that Palm Springs magazine just named the Civic Center Park number one and Freedom Park number two in the whole valley; so there is a lot to be proud of. Yet it is expensive to maintain them; last year the City spent $2 million to maintain the street medians alone, and since this is money coming from the general fund, they could save a dollar or two in s G:1DevServiceslMonira LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 medians maintenance. However, he would not recommend savings by decreasing the level of maintenance in the City parks. Ms. Steele mentioned that the parks are busier than ever. Given the state of the economy, people are using the parks more than ever. Staff has seen an increase in usage, amount of trash in the park, and vandalism. It is a constant effort to keep the parks nice, clean, and safe. Chairman Barnard asked if there were more bidders for the maintenance contract. Ms. Steele indicated that the bids are due on April 29. Mr. Niemczak added that according to the plan holder's list, there are more people who have received the bid package than last year. Commissioner Babcock commented that this year he has noticed that the parks are neat and clean. People who he has talked to said the same thing. They think it was not like that the year before and in previous years. The parks are in great shape. Ms. Steele commented that it has been a concerted effort. The contractor is good, but the Parks Inspectors have done a lot too. They were reclassified a couple of years ago, and they are now in the right position, doing the right things, and they are working very closely with the contractors. Commissioner Guyer commented that perhaps this is a good time to revisit an issue he has brought back in the past. He indicated that there are many restrictions on money that is collected from developers to build the park. Right now, the City is not allowed to use that money for maintenance once a park is built. He did not understand why this could not be changed with legislation. Mayor Spiegel answered that the City Council cannot change that restriction because the Redevelopment dollars cannot be used for salaries, and that is state law. Commissioner Guyer asked about the developer fees that are targeted towards the development of a park. Ms. Steele asked if he was referring to. Quimby fees. Commissioner Guyer answered yes. Ms. Steele indicated that those funds could be gone in five years. Since there is no development happening right now, no fees are being collected, and those funds are spreading thin. Unless development picks up, Staff has to be watching those funds carefully also. Commissioner Guyer pointed out that those funds are restricted as well. He asked when Staff is being careful with Quimby dollars, are those funds 9 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 restricted for development or could they be used for maintenance. Ms. Steele answered that they could be used for capital projects in the parks, not just to develop a park, but also to build projects such as bathrooms, paint projects, and so on. Commissioner Guyer commented that he did not know that a new capital project could be funded with Quimby funds. Ms. Steele indicated that Staff does not do any capital projects with general fund money. They use parks money and special funds instead. Mr. Croy commented that it is not advisable to tie parks projects to Redevelopment Agency (RDA) funds, because the state has full control of that money. He elaborated that it is not recommendable to tie up RDA funds to maintenance programs because the state can take those funds away. In addition, the state regulates heavily and they have never authorized using those funds for maintenance. Commissioner Guyer expressed his concern that as the City gets to be 50 or 60 years old, and there is no more development, these parks and development funds stops coming in. How do we take care of the park maintenance problem, especially when the general funds are so elusive sometimes. Mayor Spiegel commented that hopefully the general fund would get better by then. Commissioner Guyer indicated that there were specifications for the office buildings built in the Civic Center parks area that was directed toward park maintenance, but that can change too. He added that the parks maintenance funds are so elusive that he would like to tie something down a little better than what we have right now. Mayor Spiegel stated that the City Council is aware of the value of the parks, and what they do for the community, so when Ms. Steele presented a preliminary budget to the City Council there was no money taken away for parks maintenance. Commissioner Guyer said that the Commission changed the budget, so they took the money away for the general fund. He added that as a Commissioner member for years, it has been a bit frustrating that they have not been able to move in a direction where they could tie down some money for park maintenance in case there is a Council member who thinks the parks are not that important. 10 G:1DevServiceslMonica LoredolWo�d DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Chairman Barnard said that was a good point, and in planning for future projects the Commission can take into account the issue of maintenance and these could be designed or built so that there is less maintenance involved. Ms. Steele pointed out that Staff is already completing a worksheet that indicates the cost of maintenance over time, additional staff required and the sources of funds. She indicated this worksheet must now be attached to new all projects. Commissioner Housken found the numbers staggering; to think that half a million was spent in maintaining the parks, yet compared to $2 million are spent in maintaining the medians in the City, it is a big difference. Even though the medians are nice to look at, at least people use the parks. Ms. Steele commented that the budget for all the parks are $3 million and for the medians is $4 million. She pointed out that there other contracts in addition to the parks maintenance, for example, the recreation district, the tree pruning and other items that are part of the costs involved in maintaining the parks. Mr. Croy reminded the Commission that the City has experienced the first impact of recession on the government, which causes the City Council to reconsider policies on maintenance and construction of City-owned property and new projects. The City Council could this year or in future years, ask Staff to look at a possible tier modification for the maintenance program for the entire City. He indicated, however, that we are not at that point yet. Some other cities are already making this change across the United States, but Palm Desert has been fortunate to plan well and to design well. He noted that he has already educated Staff on thinking about these venues for the future. One to two years into the future, they could think about what types and what levels of service is necessary for the City to look good, attract people and keep a high level of prestige. He noted that this is something that the City Council will have to work with Staff in the future. It is coming, but it is just not here yet. Commissioner Housken indicated that she would be curious to know the cost per square foot. Ms. Steele answered that they have the cost per acre, and she would bring that information if the Commission requested it. Commissioner Guyer asked what would be a definition of "tiered maintenance." Mr. Croy explained that class A is the level that we currently have; class B would be having schedules and cycles, for 11 G:IDevSeiviceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks6ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 example, trimming the trees every 5 to 10 years and just do emergency maintenance if a tree fell down on the road. Class C would be the worst- case scenario when there is no money to do maintenance. Mr. Croy pointed out that this is just a very broad overview, but that is the level of maintenance that would be established in a tiered system. Commissioner Barnard asked if there were additional comments on the maintenance contracts. There were no comments. G. STATUS UPDATES Ms. Steele stated that this is a summary of things that Commissioners may see at the parks. She indicated that these reports are given to the City Manager for his information. Ms. Steele invited comments from the Commission. Commissioner Housken mentioned she found interesting to read about the pole that was knocked down at Joe Mann Park. Mr. Niemczak indicated that the contractor is replacing the pole. Ms. Steele indicated that the City Council approved Staff's request to pursue the "Bicycle Friendly Community" designation. Commissioner Housken commented that she thought there were storage containers by the dugouts at Freedom Park. Ms. Steele indicated that the "Freedom Park Storage Building" is for big equipment like a cart to drag the fields. Commissioner Housken asked if there is already a storage room in the snack bar. Mr. Niemczak indicated that it was not designed for this particular type of vehicle; it was designed for City equipment. Ms. Steele indicated that Staff is being watchful of the budget. Even though this project was included in this year's budget, it would be postponed if staff cannot find a good rate for the project. Commissioner Guyer asked the status of the pickleball courts conversion. Ms. Steele answered that Staff is looking at various options. Since the project at Hovley was denied, Staff is looking at an area in the University Park that is currently fenced off. She added that Mr. Niemczak received a proposal for about $20,000. Ms. Steele stated that when the Cahuilla Hills tennis courts were lined for pickleball, Staff received many complaints. When the newspaper publicized that the City Council approved the conversion of the courts at Cahuilla Hills, Staff knew that they were going to start receiving calls. Therefore, they looked for an alternative to make everyone happy and 12 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks6ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 thought of having a meeting to inform and give them the opportunity to speak. Ms. Steele added that she understood the Mayor and City Council members received some calls about this issue, because these courts are used a lot. She indicated that Staff hears constantly from users if the courts are not opened on time or if the lights do not come on when the light savings schedule changes, and so on. The bottom line is that Staff is looking at other options. Mayor Spiegel noted that the answer to the problem is to build pickleball courts. Judging by the response that the City Council has received in the mail, this project should be a priority. Ms. Steele commented that the City Council has requested to see a demonstration of pickleball so that they can understand it better. She added that Mr. Niemczak is coordinating with the secretary to the City Council and Mr. Chris Thomas, to get a date that accommodates everyone's schedule. Commissioner Guyer observed that one of the problems is the change of the net. If there were a quick and easy way to change the net, that could help solve the problem. Mayor Spiegel asked if the lines were the problem. Commissioner Guyer answered that users can get used to the lines. However, the change in the net is the issue. He wondered if the tennis association has come up with a net that can be changed quickly. Ms. Steele noted that in her experience, Easter is one of the busiest days in the park. The Desert Recreation District has asked her for help more than once. She noted that the park ambassadors do the best job that they can, but the amount of people in the park is overwhelming. Last year people were walking into the park with their tents and barbecues and there was nothing that the ambassadors could do to get people to follow any guidelines. This year Staff talked to Lt. Shouse in the Police Department and Code Enforcement to try to get additional staff in the park on this day, and she will be on call as well. Ms. Steele indicated that this year Staff would post notices at entrances indicating what the rules are. Park ambassadors will have handouts again this year to pass around. There will be a Code Enforcement Officer on duty and the Police Department will provide some of their bicycle police. 13 G:IDevServrceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParksBReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Mayor Spiegel suggested explaining to the Police Chief what problems are encountered on Easter in years past. Ms. Steele reiterated that Lt. Shouse is most responsive to the needs of the Parks and Recreation Department, and he is willing to help. In addition, he is providing the special team that works on EI Paseo with their bicycles and segways. Ms. Steele clarified that Staff is not looking to upset people on Easter or make them angry, but rather to have a safe event at the park with people following the rules. For example, people bring their big coolers and they bring alcohol. Staff wants to prevent any fighting that might go on or any activity that proves to be unsafe in the park. Commissioner Schukart asked if Freedom Park is as busy at Easter. Ms. Steele answered that it probably is. She added that both Freedom Park and Civic Center Park are used the most because they are multi-use parks, good for families with playground areas and sport areas. Ms. Steele indicated that having the police and code officers present would allow park ambassadors to be present at other parks and not just at Civic Center Park. She added that she would be on call that day as well because the police will need someone on duty. Commissioner Guyer noted that there would not be barbecues in the park for everybody. He wondered if there is a way to waive that day and provide a safe way for people to barbecue. Ms. Steele offered to discuss it with the Fire Department to find out ways that Staff can accommodate this situation. Commissioner Guyer offered that perhaps Staff could provide a safe place for hot coals. Ms. Steele will see what they can do. Ms. Steele indicated that the issues at the dog parks seem never to go away, but during the last two months, Staff has met with the Parks Inspectors to discuss issues pertaining to the dog parks in the City; then they met with dog park users to listen to their concerns and suggestions. The meeting went well, and Staff tried to explain to them some of the challenges that Staff faces with the maintenance of the dog parks such as keeping the grass growing. Staff is adding extra aeration in the upcoming parks maintenance contract in hopes that this measure will help the grass stay green longer. Staff has looked at countless ways to keep the grass in the dog park, but due to overuse, it does not last. 14 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalPaiks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docz PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 At the meeting, Staff enlisted the help of the dog park users to come up with ideas and solutions to the maintenance problem. Some of the suggestions included switching the University and small dog parks areas periodically (like changing directions on a track). The perception is that the dog parks are the same size, but they are not. Staff is going to see if having the big dogs on different sides could prevent one side from deteriorating. A schedule will be posted and see if this approach works. Another measure is to provide sand barrels so that users can fill in the holes their dogs dig. Mr. Niemczak commented that Staff is pressure washing more often at the user's request. The problem is that the Civic Center pog Park is centrally located, and people from all over the valley use this park, thus the grass maintenance is problematic. Mr. Niemczak indicated that some of the users suggested talking to an agronomist they knew. According to the agronomist, Staff is already doing everything they can. The problem is overuse. Commissioner Schukart offered that taking in consideration sanitary issues, perhaps it would be prudent to consider installing in at the center area, a combination of sand or wood chips that could be easily replaced. He added that in Oregon, he saw a dog park that had grass and around the perimeter at the center, they had an area with wood chips for the dogs to run. He indicated that the periodic replacement of the chips was of minimal cost. Mr. Niemczak commented that at other agencies where he has worked, some of the parks had wood chips but users complained because these were stuck in the dog's toes. Commissioner Schukart suggested transporting some sand from the Cahuilla Hills area and make a big sand box in the center of the dog park because the sod issue will never go away. Chairman Barnard commented that at the beach people love the have their dogs run in the sand. Commissioner Schukart noted that he has encouraged people to take their dogs to Cahuilla Hills, but it is as if it were 40 miles away. Since people do not want to go to Cahuilla Hills, then bring Cahuilla Hills to the dog park. Ms. Steele noted that the Civic Center pog Park is a social place for dog owners. It is not only about the dogs, but about the dog owner's place for 15 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 socializing also. The main thing is that the users have agreed to work with Staff in finding solutions to the ongoing grass maintenance problem. Mr. Niemczak added that Staff could ask the Parks Inspectors to conduct an informal survey and find out how they would like to have a portion of the dog park with sand or what surFace would they prefer. Ms. Steele indicated that she has found that engaging the users is the best answer. If Staff explains the reasons for doing things, the users are willing to help. Commissioner Housken asked if having another centrally located dog park would be helpful, such as the Magnesia Falls Park. Ms. Steele answered that dogs are not allowed at school sites. She indicated that users have asked for other locations where they could take their dogs while the park is closed for maintenance. Ms. Steele pointed out that she is not advocating building another dog park at this point and to keep in mind that any dog park is going to be used a lot. Commissioner Schukart commented that in his opinion the Joe Mann Dog Park is underutilized. He has noticed that very few people are using it. He wondered if the park is too small or if users do not know where the park is located. Ms. Steele noted that both the Freedom and Joe Mann Dog Parks have their own users. She guessed that people who prefer to have the park to themselves would prefer to go to these parks. Commissioner Dawson wondered what the percentage of dog users is from outside Palm Desert. Ms. Steele indicated she does not have the answer to that question. Mayor Spiegel noted that he has stopped by the large dog park and spoken to various users who are not from Palm Desert. Commissioner Guyer noted that La Quinta has a dog park now, so that should help. Ms. Steele indicated that La Quinta has a small dog park and are working on a larger one. She felt that La Quinta is addressing the issue. Mayor Spiegel observed that is really the answer. Other cities need to address the need of building dog parks in every city. Currently the City of Palm Desert is meeting the demand for dog parks and this was similar with the soccer park. When only Palm Desert had one, everybody was playing here. Now that other cities have built their own soccer parks, the usage is spread all over the valley. 16 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Ms. Steele commented that the Parks Inspectors are looking for cost- saving measures. Dog litter trash bags is one of the big expenses, so they installed tubes and invited dog park users to recycle their bags and put them in the tubes for everybody's use. They also purchased scoopers for all the parks. Commissioner Housken referred to page 91 of the agenda packet; she asked where the Freedom Park Access Gate is located. Mr. Niemczak indicated that it is located on the east side by the industrial complex. He mentioned that representatives from the Oasis Church approached Staff and offered to have an architect design the gate area. Staff did not want to incur expensive engineering or architect costs, so when the church proposed this solution Staff felt it was a win-win solution for people that wanted to use the park. Commissioner Housken referred to the Volunteer Program. She mentioned that youth at the high school are required to volunteer and wondered if this would be a good opportunity to do so. Ms. Steele said that it would be. Commissioner Housken remembered that one of the students created a website with volunteering opportunities for youth and suggested having this information included there. Ms. Steele agreed. Ms. Steele added that Staff was approached by a man who is involved with security officers around the valley who conduct training programs and are interested in giving back to the community by providing volunteer services. She talked about it with Lt. Shouse, and this would be a good program because even though they would not act as security officers on duty, they have already passed a background check. Ms. Steele has already discussed it with Gary Rosenblum, Risk Manager, and obtained some information from the JPIA to create an outline for a volunteer program, which she will present to the Commission at a future meeting. Chairman Barnard asked if the information provided in the status reports could be summarized into a monthly format. Commissioner Housken mentioned that she really liked the current format because she could see the progression of the issues and found it very informative. Commissioner Guyer, Schukart and Dawson agreed. Ms. Steele offered to change it as the Commission saw fit. H. UNIVERSITY DOG PARK RESTROOMS Ms. Steele reported that the University Dog Park restrooms are taken care of and are now back open. She explained that Staff had to close them 17 G:1DevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutesl2009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 down because the sewage was backing up. A plumber was called but could not locate the problem. Later on, the developer was contacted and his workers found out that the sewer line had not been attached to the main line. Once this was done, the problem was solved. I. DESERT RECREATION DISTRICT CONTRACT Ms. Steele indicat�d this was an informational item for the Commission and after being asked frequently about the status of the contract, wanted to provide an update. She noted that the current contract that Staff is working with is outdated. She added that she has worked with Mr. Niemczak, Ms. Adair, Mr. De Witt, and Mr. Kalman from The District to get it updated, but the contract was never signed. The City received a contract from the District that was not acceptable to the City, and thus she, Mr. Niemczak, Mr. Croy, Mr. Dave Erwin, and the then City Manager, Mr. Carlos Ortega, met to discuss the contract. The attorney for the District made some comments that she wanted included, as well as some things excluded, such as the deficiency clause. Mr. Erwin felt that those concessions could be made in the first contract and made the changes. It was agreed that the contract would then be sent back to the District. When Mr. Ortega retired sooner than expected, the Interim City Manager, Mr. Justin McCarthy, sent a letter to Mr. Stan Ford with a copy of the original contract to inform him that the contract the District submitted was not acceptable to the City. Currently the contract is in Mr. Ford's hands. Ms. Steele added that she met with Mr. John Wohlmuth, City Manager, and most likely, Staff will have to start again working on the contract and address the City's and the District's concerns and start anew. Commissioner Dawson asked about the performance indicators in the contract. Ms. Steele explained that all City contracts include a "performance deficiency" clause, so if a contractor does not fulfill their duties as specified in the contract, the City can reduce their fees. Chairman Barnard asked why this clause was taken out if it is included in every contract. Ms. Steele answered that the City made some concessions in an attempt to reach an agreement and have the contract signed. 18 G:IDevServiceslMonira LoredolWord DatalParksBReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Dawson noted that this approach did not work out. He thought that this type of clause should never be taken out, and recommended putting it back in the contract in order to ensure compliance. Commissioner Housken asked if the City is paying more to maintain the parks or to provide recreational services in the park. Ms. Steele answered that it costs more to maintain the parks. She indicated that there is a purchase order with the District to supervise the Portola Community Center for $53,000 this year, and another for the park ambassadors, skate park, and for cleaning and opening the bathrooms for $330,000. The remainder of the activities such as running the Community Center is included in the District's daily operations, and is not part of the purchase order. In addition, the District may receive additional funds for special events such as the senior games, and in the past, school programs. Commissioner Housken asked what the total cost for the District is for Palm Desert residents. Ms. Steele answered that she could bring the information she received from the Finance Department at the next meeting. Commissioner Schukart noted that since the negotiations with the District are starting over, it would be helpful to him, if Staff could bring from their perspective, what are the top five priorities or what needs to happen in order to make recreation in the City work: to improve and expand it. He would like Staff to bring this information at the next Commission meeting so that they can look at that and weigh on those priorities. He added that he has been with the Commission for about four years and is not sure he has understood what the Commission's priorities with the District are. Commissioner Guyer asked if he was referring to specific activities. Commissioner Schukart answered just general categories for the contract. He indicated that Ms. Steele touched up in a couple of those, but they need to be prioritized so that when it comes to the contract negotiation with the attorneys involved, the attorneys understand what are the Staff's and Commission's points of view on those priorities. Commissioner Dawson asked if information about the Portola Community Center would be included. He said he did not know what events take place at that center. Mayor Spiegel explained that the Portola building used to be the City's library, and when the new library was build at College of the Desert, the 19 G:1DevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min_docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Portola building became a meeting center for nonprofit organizations. The District provides a person that oversees the facility. Mayor Spiegel added that some of the nonprofits rent office space at that building, but the use of facilities if free of charge unless they want to use it after regular business hours. Commissioner Dawson asked if the office rental was for nonprofit organizations exclusively. Mayor Spiegel thought that not necessarily, but most of the organizations are nonprofits. Commissioner Dawson noted that the Portola Community Center is not a walk-in place. Mayor Spiegel answered that it is not, but it is used by many organizations, so the City Council thought it was a good investment. Chairman Barnard commented that it is a very busy place. Chairman Barnard asked if there were further comments on the contract item. He expressed that he would like to see the contract finalized. The Commission has been talking about this item for over two years with the fees, services, and finances involved. Mayor Spiegel indicated that the City Council needs to be satisfied that Palm Desert residents are getting their fair share of money for the property taxes that the District collects. This issue has never totally been resolved. Some Council members feel that it would be better to take those funds and contract with the District for programs and services and all the things that they currently do. After all, Palm Desert is a contract city. Commissioner Guyer stated that one of the problems is that the City does not have access to that money. Mayor Spiegel agreed that it is the District's money right now. Commissioner Guyer indicated that the Commission heard a presentation from the Local Agency Formation Commission (LAFCO), about detaching from the District. Mayor Spiegel indicated that if things were to change, and the City received the money the District is getting, the City would still have to deal with running the Portola Community Center, the Senior Games, etc. He added that the City Council thinks that a lot of the money goes down to Indio where they have their main offices, but they he did not know if that was true or not. Commissioner Guyer noted that question has never been answered. 20 G:IDevServicesWlonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 J. PARK INSPECTIONS Ms. Steele commented that the park inspection sheets are very valuable to Staff. She invited the Commission to inform her if they need additional copies of the park assignment forms. She added that Staff pays attention to the comments and thanked the Commission for their contribution. Commissioner Schukart said that he heard a couple of comments at Joe Mann Park that although he did not write them down, heard twice, so he would like to comment on. He indicated that some residents have been concerned with the number of young people who hangs out by the entrance to the park at the tables by the restrooms. He saw 8-10 late middle school or early high school age boys and girls who sit at the benches, are loud and make people uneasy. He added that even though they are not really doing anything, their loud behavior and appearance is threatening to people who go the park. Ms. Steele commented that within the last four to five months, Staff has received complaints from the manager of the Palm Desert Country Club Community Center. Some neighbors have sent letters to Staff and to the police department as well. In a collaborative effort, Staff has installed cameras and patrolling the area. Staff has taken measures to improve the situation. Things appeared to get better for a while, but within the last week, it seems that vandalism has started again. Staff is directing these reports directly to the police department, but this is an ongoing problem. Commissioner Schukart commented that the youths did not particularly look threatening to him, and that kids need a place to hang out. Ms. Steele commented that some of the people who live in the area have experienced vandalism, and assume these kids are the ones causing it, whether they are or not. She added that Staff has done quite a few things to prevent it such as changing the landscape, adding barriers, removing shrubs and so on. Commissioner Dawson commented that this appears to be an unofficial teen center. It sounds as if the City needs to do something for the teens and provide them with a place to hang out. Commissioner Schukart commented that if the residents of the area feel uncomfortable or intimidated, that is an issue. 21 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Babcock asked about putting up more shelters in the Civic Center Park because the amount of people that comes to the park over the weekend. He asked what happened. Ms. Steele answered that the project was put on hold because it was unknown where the Community Center would go. The project was tabled in January. Even though there are plans ready, given the state of the economy, Staff does not consider this the best timing to take this project for City Council consideration. She added that Staff is trying to avoid spending money unless it is necessary. Mr. Niemczak added that Staff is replacing the shelter that was burned. The problem was finding one with roofing tile that would work. This should be replaced soon. K. FAMILY YMCA OF THE DESERT UPDATE Ms. Steele mentioned that the YMCA of the Desert is holding an Easter Egg Hunt and Healthy Kids Day on Saturday, April 11, at the Civic Center Park in conjunction with the City's Arbor Day Celebration. Mr. Niemczak passed a handout with the Arbor Day schedule of events. Ms. Steele invited the Commission to the event. Commissioner Dawson asked who was involved in the event. Ms. Steele said that Commissioners Housken and Munson were. Commissioner Housken indicated that this would be a great event. They will have demonstrations, tours, and giveaways. The "Tree Huggers" will be playing music, and there will be a tree planting also. Mayor Spiegel asked about the raffle, where will the money go. Commissioner Housken answered that there will be no money involved; it is a free giveaway for attendees. She added that Diane Hollinger ordered some books, t-shirts, and mugs. Ms. Steele explained that this activity is her responsibility, and what it entails is that attendees will be given a passport to encourage them to go to all booths. Once they have their passports stamped, they can be entered into a giveaway. Ms. Steele said that there would be booths to talk about such topics as desert landscape and water conservation. Ms. Steele noted that there would be other events in conjunction with this event. On April 22, Earth Day, they will be planting a tree at Ronald Reagan School. On April 15, a tree will be ptanted at the Santa Rosa and San Jacinto Mountains National Monument Visitor Center, and the Joslyn Senior Center. Ms. Steele added that the committee is making this a 22 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 month-long celebration. Last weekend they had garden tours that began at the Visitor Center. Commissioner Housken commented that hopefully next year the City would be an official tree city. She added that there would have to be a resolution to that effect. L. I-10 CORRIDOR BIKE PATH (ORAL REPORT) Mr. Niemczak reported that he met on March 19 with the I-10 Corridor Committee and RRM, the consulting group that is doing the feasibility study for the I-10 Bike Path Corridor. The consultants presented a layout of what the bike path may look like for the I-10 Bicycle Path Corridor. They suggest that the project be built in phases. Participants were asked to provide comments, and he suggested having Freedom Park section be done in Phase 1. The consultants will take those comments in consideration and will bring back a plan that includes them. Mr. Niemczak noted that at the next Commission's meeting he would bring a booklet that was distributed at that meeting which shows where the path might go from Washington all the way down to the Agua Caliente Casino. Commissioner Guyer asked if the consultants have a layout. Mr. Niemczak replied that they have a preliminary one and added that they include the comments from the committee, and update the layout with those suggestions and feedback. Commissioner Guyer asked if easements have been already secured. Mr. Niemczak answered that they do not have the easements yet, they were trying to show where the path could go, and to show the tie-ins to existing bike trails. He offered to bring the materials to the next Commission meeting. Commissioner Guyer expressed concern with the loss of funding for this project. Mayor Spiegel offered that the funding was taken away, but that it will be given back next year. He added that plans must be in place before the project can move forward. M. NEWS ARTICLES Chairman Barnard welcomed comments pertaining to the news articles. There were no comments. 23 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 VI. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - NONE VII. NEW BUSINESS A. LOCAL ARTIST SHOWCASE AT THE CIVIC CENTER PARK Discussion and recommendation to the City Council concerning the concert series in the Civic Center Park. Ms. Steele briefed the Commission that Mr. Aaron White, who was an intern in the Public Works Department last summer, came to her at the end of the summer to do a local showcase of artists in the park. She added that Staff wants to start the process right from the beginning to ensure that the event is successful. Mr. White wanted to complete another internship with the City this summer, but the program may not be available. At any rate, Mr. White still wants to provide his efforts and those of 1201 Collective, an organization in the process of getting their 501(c)(3) status to showcase artists and local talent. Mr. White would like to provide the series again with a few concerts in August and September. Mr. White presented a proposal to Staff. Ms. Steele indicated that at this point she did not know where the "Concerts in the Park" series stand right now, if they will take place or not. Ms. Steele added that in her opinion, Mr. White's proposal is one of the opportunities Staff looks for in terms of partnerships to create recreational opportunities for the City. She added that she would like the Commission's support to take this proposal to the City Council for their approval. Ms. Steele noted that the costs involved would be insurance only, which was $300 last year, and indicated that Staff has funds set aside for contracted staff to provide programs. This would be a minimal fee to provide five or six different concerts. She added that the groups would bring their own equipment and would do most of their advertisement. Staff would like to ask City Council for approval to advertise the concerts in the Bright Side and make this a City sponsored event. Ms. Steele commented that there was an article in the Los Angeles Times where the City of Los Angeles in an attempt to keep vandalism down, organized some concerts in the parks, and they saw a drop in the amount of vandalism in the parks. Ms. Steele offered to bring this article to the Commission at the next meeting. Ms. Steele added that Staff believes this represents an opportunity to give adolescents something to do. Staff is always looking for different 24 G:1DevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 programs, not sports only. She indicated that this age group seems to always be missed, so Staff is recommending taking this proposal to City Council and asking for their support. Ms. Steele noted that Staff is willing to work with Mr. White to make this program happen. She added that Staff would meet with all the bands to review their lyrics and make it very clear that no profanity will be tolerated. Ms. Steele indicated that if the City Council approves this request, she would bring more information to the Commission. Mayor Spiegel asked what the turnout for the concerts was last summer. He understood that it was not that good. Ms. Steele said that it actually was, and they had three concerts before they were cancelled. She indicated that the concerts received a lot of coverage from the newspaper and Staff received many calls inquiring about them. Mayor Spiegel asked who pulled the plug on the concerts last summer. Ms. Steele answered that she was out of town and was not certain. She indicated that Staff is willing to start again and go through the approval process. Mayor Spiegel noted that City Council would convene on April 24 to go over the programs and concerts in the park such as the 4th of July, Golf Cart Parade, etc. Ms. Steele clarified that this program would not fit in that category, as Staff is not looking for that type of funding. Commissioner Dawson moved to approve Staff's recommendation to present this proposal to the City Council for approval. Commissioner Guyer pointed out that he would like to consider some support on the security aspect of the event, especially if the concerts become popular, and there is no charge for attending, the Commission and Staff would not want to go to City Council and ask for money to make the events safe. He thought this was worth considering. Commissioner Schukart seconded the motion. Commissioner Schukart reiterated that he agreed that security is highly recommended. In his experience at College of the Desert with this type of events, he has seen 99% of the kids behaving well, but it only takes one or two to misbehave. He thought that it would be wise to have one or two security officers present. Chairman Barnard asked if there were other comments or discussion. 25 G:1DevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes14-7-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 Commissioner Housken asked if there was paid security in the past at the Thursday night summer concerts. Staff answered no. Mr. Craig De Witt commented that at the District concert events they have police and private security. Commissioner Guyer commented that the Thursday summer concerts were very casuaL Commissioner Schukart offered to talk to Mr. Clayton Mace, the Director of the Public Safety Academy. They have students who are in the program to become sworn officers, who are currently cadet students. As part of their educational requirements, they are assigned work-study hours, and this could be a good program for them because they are uniformed but they do not carry weapons. Ms. Steele offered to join Commissioner Schukart to talk to Mr. Mace. Ms. Steele thought this would be a good start and offered to discuss it with Lt. Shouse also before taking this item to City Council. Vice Chair Dash asked who would be ultimately responsible; he commented that he heard the word "raucous" twice, and wondered who would be present either before or after at these events. Ms. Steele answered that Staff would be present and will review the wording and the lyrics. She welcomes anyone else who may like to be present and share the responsibility of making sure the concerts are safe. She added that she was present in the past concerts except for the last one when she was out of town. She noted that there will be a City Staff person present as well, and there will be clear guidelines of what is expected from the performers and attendees. Mayor Spiegel suggested making sure someone gives them the "ground rules". Ms. Steele indicated that she would do that by having them sign a waiver, and that if there are any violations, they would not be allowed to perform again. Chairman Barnard asked if there were additional comments. There was none. Commissioner Dawson moved to approve Staff's recommendation to present the 1201 Collective proposal for a Summer Concert Series to the City Council for approval, and for Staff to include security at the 26 GIDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks6ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 7, 2009 concerts. Commissioner Schukart seconded the motion that passed with an 8-0 vote with Commissioner Munson ABSENT. VIII. COMMENTS Commissioner Schukart commented that he heard rumors about the reemergence of the aquatic/community center. He asked if there were any facts associated with these rumors that he may need to be aware of. Mayor Spiegel answered that he did not know of any. Commissioner Guyer asked if Commissioner Schukart meant start discussing it again. Commissioner Schukart answered yes. Commissioner Guyer joked that he did not know of any, but would like to start that rumor. Commissioner Schukart heard someone say that the City was going to build a pool, but not the whole community center concept in the park. On a second occasion, someone else said that the City would receive some "stimulus funds" for the pool project. He heard these two comments in�the same week, so he thought he would ask. Ms. Steele answered that she knows that the stimulus money indicates very clearly that the funds cannot be used for aquatic facilities. She has not heard of any discussions taking place. Commissioner Dawson asked about the bylaws. Ms. Steele answered that Ms. Monica Loredo was getting them ready and they will be included in the next agenda. IX. ADJOURNMENT Upon motion by Commissioner Dawson, seconded by Commissioner Schukart, the meeting was adjourned at 10:25 a.m. _ , E�rV�..,c � t - � � Monica Loredo, Recording Secretary 27 G:IDevServiceslMonica LoredolWord DatalParks&ReclMinutes12009 Minutes147-09.min.docx