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PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Dash convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent
Chairman Roger Dash Commissioner Michael Barnard
Vice Chair Randy Guyer Commissioner Deborah Hall
Commissioner Phill Babcock
Commissioner Jerry Dawson
Commissioner Kim Housken
Commissioner Terry Schukart
Commissioner Christopher Thomas
Staff Present:
Mark Greenwood, P.E., Director of Public Works f i
Bertha A. Gonzalez, Recording Secretary � � �
H. Spencer Knight, Landscape Manager �,
Ryan Stendell, Senior Management Analyst
John M. Wohlmuth, City Manager ,
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Rob Ballew, YMCA of the Desert � o '� ,
Craig DeWitt, Desert Recreation District � "
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Robert A. Spiegel, Councilman C '����
Van Tanner, Planning Commission Liaison � ` ��
Gina Tenorio, The Desert Sun Q
Kelly Emnier, YMCA "� � �.�. �- '.
Jeff Ronci, Desert Recreation District V �"Q A �' �: �
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IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF TUESDAY, MAY 14,
2010.
Commissioner Housken requested that page 2, paragraph 1 of the
minutes reflect that some Commissioners believed a higher cost
recovery percentage should be set for the Aquatic Center.
Upon a motion by Chairman Dash, second by Commissioner
Schukart and 7-0 vote of the Commission Board, the Consent Calendar was
approved with the requested addition.
V. NEW BUSINESS — NONE
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. AQUATIC CENTER
Chairman Dash began the discussion by addressing the feelings of
dissatisfaction and antagonism he felt were coming from staff members
towards the Commission at the previous meeting. He reminded staff of
some of the requests the Commission had made and City staff had
declined. First, the Commission's request to have the inspectors from
the Landscape Services Division attend the meetings periodically to
introduce themselves and present a report was denied due to the
inspectors' workload. The Commission also asked staff to show the
PowerPoint that was presented at the Council-Planning Joint meeting.
Staff initially denied the request because the consultant that had given
the presentation came from Arizona and no funds were available to have
him give the presentation again. On that note, Chairman Dash thanked
Mr. Ryan Stendell for locating the PowerPoint and presenting it in this
meeting. In addition, staff had originally denied the request to return the
Aquatic Center Project to the Commission for discussion because it had
already been given preliminary approval and was therefore considered
final. When staff agreed to add the item to the agenda, Chairman Dash
was informed that it will be presented as an informational item. Upon
Chairman Dash's objection, staff listed the project under items of
discussion. In his opinion, this series of denials seem to diminish the
role of the Commission; therefore, Chairman Dash asked staff and the
Commission to move forward with a better communication and working
relation.
Finally, Chairman Dash requested additional information of the Aquatic
Center Steering Committee in order to better understand their duties and
how they relate to the Commission. Mr. Mark Greenwood informed the
Commission that the Steering Committee met every four to six weeks
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and the Parks and Recreation Commission is represented by
Commissioner Hall and Commissioner Schukart. The items discussed in
these meetings are not subsequent to what has been done by the
Commission. The Commission serves as an advisory to the City
Council, which is separate from the Steering Committee, who works with
the logistics of the Aquatic Center design. The Committee also works on
keeping the design on schedule, since it is scheduled to be completed
by summer 2010, out to bid by late summer and commence construction
by early fall. Mr. Greenwood also stated that minutes of the meetings
are available.
Mr. Stendell met with the City Clerk in order to better understand the
Commission's role and their available avenues in regard to this project.
He was informed that the Commission's role was to provide preliminary
approval and recommendations to the City Council. Since the
Commission gave its approval of the Aquatic Center Project, as reflected
in the September 15, 2009, meeting minutes, and City Council has
moved the project forward, the Commission has two options: Be actively
involved in the Aquatic Center Steering Committee, or reconsider the
Parks and Recreation Commission's action of September 15, which
could be rescinded.
Vice Chair Guyer stated that he believed the Commission's September
15 recommendation was incorrect, especially with the current staff and
budget changes. He also noted that the original design included more
amenities, but due to the current economy the size of the center was
reduced. Another concern was the change of location from College of
Desert (GOD) to the Date Grove, to which Commissioner Schukart
responded that due to parking and tennis court placement concerns, the
project could no longer be constructed at COD. In addition, Vice Chair
Guyer was unhappy with the fact that the City had not yet hired a partner
to manage the project. Mr. John Wohlmuth responded that a Request
for Proposals (RFP) for the management of the pool cannot be issued
until the design of the project has been completed. After seeing what
other cities have done in their Aquatic Centers, Vice Chair Guyer
believes the project is inadequate and the residents deserve more.
Mr. Stendell presented the PowerPoint that was shown at the City
Council-Planning Joint Meeting as requested by the Committee.
Highlights, comments and/or questions regarding the presentation were
as follows:
• The original design included LEED lighting. But in parking lots,
LEED lighting uses twice the energy of standard high pressure
sodium bulbs; therefore, it was changed to standard lighting.
• The trees that will be removed from the Date Grove will be reused
by the landscape services staff.
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• The remaining date palms will be included in the City's palm tree
pruning schedule in order to prevent fruit droppings on vehicles.
• The turf and sidewalk along the center can be removed, if
necessary, to expand the project in the future.
• The north facing windows are glassed in order to allow natural
sunlight in the building for energy saving purposes.
• Solar panels will be installed to offset electricity cost.
• The construction materials will be water absorbent in order to
prevent prablems with wet soil from the Date Grove.
• The center has a capacity of 1,200; staff was unsure if the
capacity includes the number of people in the water or throughout
the center. Staff will research what is the maximum capacity of
the center.
• Commissioner Housken inquired if there would be an issue with
the current position of the pools, since in the original design the
pools were on the opposite sides and now the bleachers are
facing the neighborhood. Mr. Greenwood stated that the design
consultant was the one that suggested the pools be set in the
current position in order to have the competitive pool further away
from the neighborhood.
• The most significant change was done to the splash area. The
Health Department required the splash area to be turned over
every 30 minutes and be separated from the swim area, which is
turned over every six hours. In addition, a City Council
representative requested that the splash area be closer to the
slides. Therefore, the design went through a series of revisions in
order to accommodate both requests.
• Originally, the backwash water that will be used to water the Date
Grove was to be contained in a dry stream bed, but due to safety
and maintenance concerns, the backwash water will now be
contained in an underground container.
• At a City Council meeting, the public expressed their concerns
with the height of the slide. The City Council asked staff to
address the concerns and modify as necessary. After some
discussion, staff compromised and the height of the slide roof was
reduced.
• The concern of closing the center at certain times of the year was
addressed with staff's statement that the center will be open 365
days a year.
• The diving board ladders will be permanent, but the diving boards
can be propped up or removed when not in use.
• The design architects are considering using white thermal
blankets instead of blue thermal blankets due to the cooling costs.
• Motor homes will not be able to park in the center's parking lot.
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In addition, due to Commissioner Housken's broad research of the
Aquatic Center design options, the Commission suggested that she
become a member of the Aquatic Center Steering Committee.
Chairman Dash will consult with Mr. Stendell to discuss the option of
adding Commissioner Housken to the Steering Committee.
Although Vice Chair Guyer agreed that the current design for the Aquatic
Center is beautiful, he remained discontent due to his previous
concerns. He then requested the item be returned to the City Council for
reconsideration. In addition, the Commission suggested forming an
Aquatic Center study group that will bring recommendations to the
Commission. Volunteers for the group included Commissioner Babcock,
Vice Chair Guyer and Commissioner Schukart.
Mr. Wohlmuth commented that by direction of the City Council, the
project needs to be completed on time and within budget. He believes
the project is good and satisfies the community's needs; therefore, he
will move forward unless directed otherwise by the City Council.
Councilman Spiegel commented that the Commission should proceed in
the manner they feel is most appropriate.
Upon a Motion by Vice Chair Guyer, second by Commissioner Babcock,
and a 2-1-4 vote of the Commission Board with Chairman Dash abstaining, the
request to resubmit the Commission's September 15 recommendation to the City
Council for reconsideration was denied.
Upon a motion by Vice Chair Guyer, second by Commissioner Schukart and
a 7-0 vote of the Commission, the recommendation to form an Aquatic Center Study
Group was approved.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. SUMMER SCHEDULE
The summer schedule will be determined in the meeting of June.
VIII. PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATES — NONE
IX. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Councilman Spiegel distributed a copy of a letter from Jackie Damron, a
Palm Desert resident, which noted her concerns with the vandalism and
lack of water for dogs at the University Dog Park. Mr. Greenwood noted
that police patrol has been increased and staff is working on a surveillance
program. Lighting concerns are also being addressed by directing the
lighting towards the turf. Commissioner Babcock requested police to walk
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through the parks instead of just driving by. Staff will address the lack of
water concerns by installing time-release spigots; a photo was distributed.
Commissioner Dawson questioned if the Commission had received the
actual minutes of the last meeting, since the minutes from previous
meetings were more verbatim and these are more summarized. Mr.
Greenwood clarified that these were the actual minutes and that they are
longer than the City Council's minutes if you look at pages per hour.
Commissioner Thomas distributed a flyer regarding Pickleball Proclamation,
which he will be presenting to City Council on May 27, 2010.
Commissioner Housken inquired about the park-related news articles that
used to be distributed at previous meetings. Mr. Stendell stated that the staff
member that used to provide the articles is no longer available; therefore, he
asked the Commission's assistance in providing articles they found of
interest to Commission.
Mr. Stendell will resume the distribution of the Park Inspection Reports in
the next scheduled meeting.
X. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business or discussion, and with the Commissioners'
unanimous concurrence, the meeting was adjourned at 10:19 a.m.
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