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PALM DESERT
PALM DESERT MARKETING COMMITTEE
APPROVED MINUTES
Tuesday, July 20, 2010 — 2 p.m.
Administrative Gonference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER
Sara O'Flynn called the meeting to order at 2 p.m.
IL ROLL CALL
CITY COUNCILACTION
Members Present: ANY�tOVED _-1)l�.h'IF.D
Sara O'Flynn, Chair REC�IVED e��� � OTHI:R �
Emily Bird-Hrivnak, Vice Chair �
Kimberly Bowers MEI:TING llATE �" � ����� _
Stephanie Loog AYES: 7� c-r1 P usc}�1 v���e�1 ' ��. c� �� �
Theresa Maggio NOES: /�����
Michael Shimer ABSENT: ����-
Marlane Wolf AI3STAIN: ' '�� �
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Staff/Others Present: Original on File with City C�crk's Of'fice
Justin McCarthy, Assistant City Manager
Kristy Kneiding, Marketing Manger
Donna Gomez, Visitor Center Manager
David Hermann, Management Analyst
Lori Wimbish, Recording Secretary
Jim Doyle, Palm Springs Life
Michael Matthews, Palm Springs Life
Peggy Cravens, Virginia Waring Piano Competition, President
Gerald Benston, M.D., Virg�nia Waring Piano Competition, First Vice President
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF JUNE '15 AND JUNE 29, 2010.
Theresa Maggio moved, by Minute Motion, to approve the minutes of the June
15 and June 29, 2010, meetings as amended. Motion was seconded by Emily Bird-
Hrivnak and carried unanimously.
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V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR SPONSORSHIP FOR SANTA ROSA AND SAN
JACINTO MOUNTAINS NATIONAL MONUMENT 10th ANNIVERSARY
CELEBRATION
Michael Matthews, Marketing Director for Palm Springs Life, distributed
sponsorship packets to the Committee for its review.
Mr. Matthews stated that the Santa Rosa and San Jacinto Mountains
National Monument was the very first monument inaugurated by
Congressional Order. Ansel Adams began photographing the Mountains
many years ago; a hobby that has evolved through the years by many
different photographers. Palm Springs Life engaged a local photographer,
Tom Brewster, to take photographs for this project. Mr. Brewster has
taken countless photographs over the past nine months.
Mr. Matthews said Palm Springs Life partnered with the Friends of the
Desert Mountains to help them celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Santa
Rosa and San Jacinto Mountains National Monument. The proposed
sponsorship level is the $1 Q,000 "Friend Sponsor," which includes the City
of Palm Desert logo on all promotional displays including brochures,
posters, invitations, etc. They will produce over 200 posters announcing
the celebration and 500 posters announcing a "kick-off' event. In addition,
a half-page ad will run in the September issue of the "Living Edition" that
would reach over 3.2 million people in print alone. They were also going
to have 2 to 12 pages of photography in every issue of Palm Springs Life
for the next 12 months. The celebration, which will last an entire year, will
be promoted in the magazine and online.
Upon question from Kristy Kneiding, Mr. Matthews responded that the
half-page advertisement would be Palm Desert's creative with the Palm
Desert logo. He suggested that the ad could salute the monument and its
10t" anniversary. In addition to the half-page ad there will be a
sponsorship recognition page in the magazine. Logos will not be placed
on any of the photography.
A press release will be sent out announcing all of the sponsors involved in
the celebration of the Monument. Mr. Matthews suggested that the
September/October kick-off celebration could be held at the Palm Desert
Visitor Center.
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Donna Gomez stated that the Visitor Center would not be in its new
location; however, the existing Visitor Center would be fully operational in
September/October, and could easily hast the kick-off celebration event.
Kimberly Bowers stated that would be an excellent opportunity to
announce the new location of the Palm Desert Visitor Center.
Mr. Matthews continued to describe the events that would take place
throughout the year.
Upon inquiry from Sara O'Flynn, Mr. Matthews stated that they currently
have meetings scheduled with the other Valley cities, but have not yet
secured any sponsorships.
Upon inquiry from Stephanie Loog, Mr. Matthews responded that the
campaign will begin in the September issue, the beginning of the 10tn
anniversary. He stated that the September issue is produced in a
hardbound copy that gets placed in many hotel rooms throughout the
Valley. Because the celebration will last for one year, many visitors who
stay in hotels wi�l see that they have an opportunity to enjoy the
celebration. He added that the deadline for ad placement for this
sponsorship would be this week— July 23, 2010.
A discussion was held regarding the FY 2010/11, $7,000 budgeted for ad
placement in the September issue of Palm Springs Life magazine. The
advertisement offered through the sponsorship of the Santa Rosa and San
Jacinto Mountains Monument 10t" Anniversary celebration would be a
separate expense.
Upon inquiry from Ms. Bird-Hrivnak, Mr. Matthews responded that there
may not be one sponsor for each level unless someone requests category
exclusivity.
Upon inquiry from Ms. Bowers, Ms. Kneiding responded that if the
Committee recommended funding this sponsorship in the amount of
$10,000, the funds would need to be appropriated. Staff recommended
sponsoring this event for $5,000, which could be taken from the Special
Events budget. This item will go to City Council for its approval.
Ms. O'Flynn stated that the Committee needs to be mindful when looking
at items not planned for in the FY 2Q10/11 budget. She said the
photographs were outstanding and if this sponsarship request were being
presented to the Committee earlier, she might consider it a little bit
differently.
Ms. Kneiding explained that the funds would be available from the Special
Events budget vs. the Marketing budget,
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Upon inquiry from Ms. O'Flynn, Ms. Kneiding stated that she was
comfortable with recommending $5,000 for this sponsorship. She said the
Santa Rosa and San Jacinto Moun#ains are in our backyard and are an
important aspect of our city.
A discussion was held regarding the kick-off celebration being at the Palm
Desert Visitor Center at the $5,000 sponsorship level. Mr. Matthews said
they would not be able to have the kick-off celebration at the Palm Desert
Visitor Center at the $5,000 level.
Ms. Bird-Hrivnak moved, by Minute Motion, to recommend staff's
recommendation of a $5,000 sponsorship for the Santa Rosa and San Jacinto
Mountains National Monument 10t" Anniversary Celebration. Motion was seconded by
Michael Shimer and carried 5-0; Marlane Wolf and Ms. Maggio had left the meeting at 3
p.m.
B. PRESENTATION AND REQUEST FOR SPONSORSHIP OF THE
VIRGINIA WARING INTERNATIONAL PIANO COMPETITION
Peggy Cravens introduced herself and thanked the Committee for allowing
the Virginia Waring International Piano Competition the opportunity to
recognize the City of Palm Desert in many publications all over the world
since 2005. Ms. Cravens believed that the Competition has made Palm
Desert as well known as Palm Springs, and brings a cross section of
people from all over the world to this very beautiful area.
A number of documents were distributed to the Committee. Ms. Cravens
recapped the information in the revenue document. She stated that the
last two sponsorship amounts given by the City were less than the first
amount and generated mare revenue. It was clear that the Competition
was gaining great strengths, people were looking forward to it, and of
course it continues to be placed in international and national magazines
that cater to the piano world. They had an ad and insert in the January
issue of Palm Springs Life. The City of Palm Desert is mentioned at all
the competition events as well as in the printed program. Ms. Cravens
stated they were very excited that the Senior Division winner in the Solo
Division will win a sizable honorarium and will debut at Carnegie Weill
Hall. Palm Desert wil! be publicized in that program as well.
Ms. Cravens announced that Dr. Condoleezza Rice accepted to be the
honoree at the Black and White Gala.
Dr. Gerald Benston pointed out that non-hotel dollars spent in 2005, 2007
and 2009 were dollars spent by individuals involved with the Piano
Competition. There were considerable amounts of money spent by the
visitors, families and teachers. He emphasized that the upcoming 2011
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Competition includes Junior (ages 12 and under) and Intermediate (ages
13-17) categories, and competitors are always accompanied by family,
parents, teachers and friends. Many stay at hotels and enjoy all the
amenities Palm Desert has to offer. In 2005, the competition featured the
International Chamber Ensemble with over 40 attendees from Rome.
They bought thousands of dollars worth of inerchandise. The first cellist
returned to Rome with gifts for his wife and young daughter purchased at
Tiffany's, and they were all sporting polo shirts with the Italian and
American flags on them. They discovered the mall and a beautiful street
called EI Paseo. Needless to say, this is an important issue to point out as
this competition brings a beautiful awareness of the City of Palm Desert to
the world.
He thanked the Committee for allawing him to appear before them and
since "we" is a collective word, he personalized his comments by saying
"I" respectfully request that you consider our grant sponsorship request in
the amount of$25,000.
Ms. O'Flynn complimented Ms. Cravens and Dr. Benston on the research
that was done with regards to the return on the investment. As someone
who has attended the Competition, she said it was a very beautiful and
educational event that brings a great deal of culture to our community.
With that she opened up the floor for comments and questions regarding
the proposal.
Ms. Cravens added that all publishing of printed materials were produced
in Palm Desert. She said that Dr. Rice and her Executive Assistant would
be seated at the City of Palm Desert table if so desired. There will be a
special VIP reception for Dr. Rice at a very prestigious home in EI Dorado
Country Club. The Council members will be invited to the reception.
Upon inquiry by Ms. Kneiding, Ms. Cravens responded that the gala is
scheduled for February 20, 2Q11, to be held at the Rancho Las Palmas
Hotel in Rancho Mirage, and the VIP reception is scheduled for February
19, 2011. The Competition begins at the end of March and the final
concert at the McCallum is Sunday, April 3, 2011. Due to the attendance
of Dr. Rice, she estimates having anywhere between 400 to 500 people at
the event.
Ms. Kneiding stated that the funds for this event were not included in the
Community Events budget, so if the Committee recommends approval
that would be noted on the staff report to City Council.
Ms. Cravens added that because of the state of the economy they did not
feel that it was appropriate to request the same amount that was given in
2009. They felt that $25,000 would be a better figure.
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Upon inquiry from Ruth Ann Moore, Ann Greer, Executive Director of the
Virginia Waring Piano Competition, responded that they work exclusively
with Palm Desert hotels.
Ms. O'Flynn moved, by Minute Motion, to recommend approval of the
requested amount of $25,000, considering the amount of revenue realized by the City
and the fact that they have taken the consideration to ask for a reduced sponsorship
than what was requested in the past. Motion was seconded by Ms. Bowers and carried
5-0.
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATI�N AND RECOMMENDATION
REGARDING 2010 ! 2011 MEDIA PLAN
Kristy Kneiding was asked to bring this item back to the Committee for
further discussion and input. She stated that the questions from Council
were specific to the Media Plan. Are the monies allocated for advertising
in the Desert Guide and Palm Springs Life being spent wisely? Could the
City create its own guide and distribute it at the Visitor Center?
Upon inquiry by Ms. Wolf, Justin McCarthy said he sensed that the
Council wanted a more focused plan. He recommended to the Committee
that they could move the Media Plan forward and defer the items Council
was concerned about.
Upon inquiry by Michael Shimer, Ms. Kneiding responded that the Desert
Guide portion is $13,600. With the inclusion of tourism advertising the
total is $25,565.
Ms. Bird-Hrivnak stated that the Committee's direction was to do more
localized marketing to tourists that were already here. It did not make
sense to shift away from Palm Springs Life when they have a distribution
in the whole Valley and also outside of the area. She was curious about
the change in the thought process of the Council members because it did
not match what they previously discussed,
Donna Gomez mentioned that the Visitor Center advertises in Travel Host,
which is a local publication. The Visitor Center appears in the Desert
Guide as well, and she believed it was a good value. From her point of
view, directing people to the Visitor Center through local publications was
working.
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Upon inquiry by Ms. Kneiding, Ms. Gomez said there were a lot of
materials that the City produces, including the Dining Guide, which
highlights just Palm Desert restaurants. The Vacation Guide lists all local
attractions as well as local hotels. The Shopping Map highlights all of the
shopping areas in the City. There are also individual advertisements for EI
Paseo, Westfield, and The Gardens. As far as shopping, dining, and
things to do, it is all very well covered.
Ms. Maggio stated that in the past, Bighorn advertised in the Pacific
Norkhwest, but in the past four years, more of their members and/or
homeowners were coming from Southern California. She did not believe
that advertising in the Palm Springs Airport was as important as before
because most people are coming from the two hour drive market. She
would like the City's marketing dollars to stay locally rather than looking
outside the area. She was very confident with Ms. Kneiding's advice on
advertising buys.
Ms. Kneiding stated that the City was represented in the Northwest market
through its co-ops with the CVA,
Mr. Shimer suggested that a bounce back be placed on the ads in the
Desert Guide, Travel Host, and Palm Springs Life, so that they could track
the amount of people going to the Visitor Center based on those ads.
Mr. McCarthy reported that in several forums the Council had some
interaction with local businesses. He believed that dialogue between the
Cornmittee members and Council's liaison to the Marketing Gommittee
would help with coming to a concrete conclusion as to whether the path
the Marketing Committee has chosen is the best path for advertising the
City of Palm Desert. He was concerned about holding up the rest of the
Media Plan for this discussion. He suggested that the Media Plan be
approved with the deferment of the Desert Guide and Palm Springs Life
placements.
Ms. Kneiding said that recommendation could be entertained; however, it
would mean missing September insertions with Palm Springs Life and the
Desert Guide. September issues were critical, but it may not be worth
holding up the entire plan.
Ms. O'Flynn asked if there was a motion regarding moving ahead with the
Media Plan with the exception of the two media placements, which can be
deferred to September.
Ms. Maggio stated that the September issues were placed in all of the
hotels so she could not support that motion. She could support the motion
only if they were able to keep the September buys for Palm Springs Life
and the Desert Guide.
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Upon inquiry by Mr. Shimer, Michael Matthews responded that the
deadline for the September issue was Friday, July 23�a
Mr. Matthews, Palm Springs Life, addressed the Committee. He stated
that everything that Palm Springs Life was doing, including the Desert
Guide and Palm Springs Lrfe magazine, was available digitally. Everyone
who accesses Palm Springs Life's website, which is 3.4 million people,
has the opportunity to click on every page of the magazine. This was
another exposure that they did not have in the past. Eighty percent of
Palm Spring Life's internet viewers are outside of the Coachella Valley,
reaching individuals in the Northwest, Midwest, etc. There are also
23,000 opt-in newsletter subscribers who receive information by e-blast, in
addition to the magazine subscribers. He wanted the Committee to know
about this information as it has only been in existence since January 2010.
Mr. Shimer stated that the other option was to recommend what the
Committee had previously recommended, and let the Council change it at
will.
Mr. Shimer moved, by Minute Motion, that the previous recommendation made
by the Committee remain in place. Motion was seconded by Ms. Wolf and carried
unanimously.
Mr. McCarthy stated that the recommendation would be couched with the
recommendation made by the Committee as well as an alternative from
staff in terms of deferral and moving forward with the balance of the Media
Plan. He hoped that there was not an objection and wanted to keep
things moving forward.
B. REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDATION OF
CREATIVE DESIGN SERVICES
Ms. Kneiding said the Committee sat through the presentations, which she
appreciated, and came out with a recommendation to move forward with
the design of Scott Burch Design, but liked the testing of the messaging
that Off Madison Ave. provided as part of their creative. When she went
back to negotiate with Off Madison Ave., they explained that they were
willing to take three of the five campaigns and test those three for
audience appeal.
The Committee had discussed the merits of both companies' campaigns
so she felt it was important to bring the creative back to the Committee, as
the previous recommendation was not negotiable.
Upon inquiry from Ms. Wolf, Ms. Kneiding clarified that Off Madison Ave.
was not able to test the creative from Scott Burch Design.
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Ms. Kneiding stated that Scott Burch Design would cost $5,500 and Off
Madison Ave. was $15,000.
A discussion ensued regarding the issue of testing.
Ms. Kneiding added that whatever she takes forward to the Council will
include the testing information. The Council will see all three agencies'
campaigns.
Ms. O'Flynn stated that if the Committee makes the decision to go with Off
Madison Ave. based on their ability to test its campaigns, then they would
have to choose three of the five campaigns submitted.
Ms. Wolf stated that the Committee has two choices. The Committee
could choose the Scott Burch Design campaign and use a different form of
testing. It would not be the same as Off Madison Ave., but the Committee
still has that choice.
A discussion was held regarding the tracking of ads.
Ms. Bowers asked if Off Madison Ave. would be willing to do more testing,
such as JNS was willing to do. Ms. Kneiding responded that they would.
Upon inquiry by Ms. Bowers, Ms. Kneiding stated that she did not get
testing prices from Scott Burch because the testing would be done by
JNS. She said the Scott Burch Design campaign would cost $5,500. Off
Madison Ave. was asking $25,000, but offered the campaigns and testing
for $20,000.
Ms. Wolf had thought the Committee liked the feel of Scott Burch's
creative better than Off Madison Ave.
Ms. Bird-Hrivnak stated that the Committee coufd not agree on any one
campaign submitted by Off Madison Ave. She thought that was where the
testing would be valuable and testing is where Off Madison Ave.'s talent
really lies. With Scott Burch there is only one option. She questioned
whether or not the Burch campaign would equate to driving the ROI into
the area.
Ms. Bowers asked if Off Madison Ave. was worth $15,000 more, because
that is how much more it would cast. Although, Ms. Bird-Hrivnak made a
good point that Committee members could not decide on one campaign
submitted by Off Madison Ave., the testing of three campaigns could really
provide the opporkunity to see what people were responding to.
Ms. Loog stated that they also discussed supporting a local vendor.
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Ms. Maggio liked the look of Off Madison Ave.'s "Seasonai" campaign, but
would someone really read the ad?
Upon inquiry from Ms. Bird-Hrivnak, Ms. Kneiding stated that the "Plan to
Be Spontaneous" campaign headline is going away, so there will need to
be some online shifting, and the Vacation Guides will need to be revised.
The changes would be subtle; not a complete redesign.
The Committee discussed the translation of the campaigns to the website.
Ms. O'Flynn stated that Off Madison Ave.'s cost includes testing of their
campaigns, whereas Scott Burch Design's cost does not. She was
concerned with giving away the local relationship and/or investment with
not choosing Scott Burch Design. In light of what needs to be
accomplished, she was comfortable making a recommendation that the
Committee go with Off Madison Ave. She believed that they needed to go
with what was going to work as far as testing and getting the best results
for the money.
Ms. Kneiding added that she has enlisted Scott Burch Design's assistance
in designing some other collateral pieces. He knows the Palm Desert look
and feel so she will be using him for event advertising.
Ms. O'Flynn stated that was good to know because he is local and he
brought a lot of enthusiasm with his campaign
Ms. Bird-Hrivnak moved, by Minute Motion, to recommend Off Madison Ave. for
the creative and testing of that creative. Motion was seconded by Ms. O'Flynn. Motion
was not carried.
Ms. Loog really liked the whole concept of the Scott Burch Design
campaign. She thought it was very different. She felt that Off Madison
Ave.'s submittals were dated. She has always been a big proponent of
keeping everything local. She said it sends a message to our residents,
merchants, and vendors that they really do care about people who are
local. Taking that into consideration, and the fact that the two were so
close, she would choose Scott Burch Design.
Upon comment from Ms. O'Flynn, Ms. Laog said she liked that Ms.
Kneiding was going to be using Scott Burch Design in other areas of
marketing for Palm Desert.
Ms. Maggio felt strongly about using local vendors as well. However, she
has witnessed the incredible testing that has taken place over the past
four to five years, which is why she believes that �ff Madison Ave. was
the best choice.
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Upon inquiry from Ms. Bowers, Ms. Kneiding responded that 25% of the
budget is spent on online advertising; 25% is co-op advertising; 25% is
print; and the remaining 25% is electronic. Off Madison Ave. will be
testing 50% of the media online and print buying budget.
Upon inquiry from Ms. Wolf, Ms. Kneiding responded that there will not be
focus groups; it would be online testing conducted in the City's targeted
demographics areas. Those online ads will rotate and response will be
monitored.
Ms. Bird-Hrivnak moved, by Minute Motion, to recommend Off Madison Ave. for
their creative and testing abilities. Motion was seconded by Ms. Bowers and carried 6-
1. Ms. Wolf voted no.
After much discussion, the Committee requested that Ms. Kneiding ask
Off Madison Ave. to test four campaigns. Ms. Kneiding stated that she
would ask Off Madison Ave. to do that. She would leave the decision to
Off Madison Ave. to select which campaigns they thought were the
strongest.
Ms. O'Flynn moved, by Minute Motion, to recommend that staff make a request
of Off Madison Ave. to test four campaigns for$20,000. If they choose to test only three
then those three will be chosen by Off Madison Ave. Motion was seconded by Ms. Wolf
and carried unanimously. (This item was considered first on the agenda.)
IX. REPORTS FROM CITY COUNCIL LIAISONS
A. City Council
None
X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Chair
Ms O'Flynn reported that Anthropologie will be opening early and Teavana
would be opening soon as well.
Everything at EI Paseo Village is on schedule for opening September 1,
2Q10.
B. Committee Members
Mr. Shimer reported that EI Paseo Putt Putt was this Thursday evening
and encouraged everyone to join in on the fun.
Ms. Bird-Hrivnak reported that everything was good at the Marriott.
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Ms. Bowers reported that Zoo Camp is in fult swing. It has been great this
year. The educational staff continues to amaze her with their passion for
educating the children.
Ms. Bowers stated that the Children's Discovery Center is going to open in
early November. The building was finished and they were beginning to
move in the exhibits. They have a unique event that they are launching
with the opening called "Zoo Fest" on November 11 t". They anticipate a
wonderful event.
B. Staff
Ms. Kneiding reported that Lee Morcus has resigned from the Marketing
Cornmittee. She said there were a couple of individuals interested in
joining the Committee.
Ms. Kneiding reported that Ruth Ann Moore organized meetings with the
top 25 retailers in May and with the general managers and sales
managers from the hotels in June. Ms. Kneiding attended the June
meeting and stated that it was very productive.
She announced that Terence Sullivan, Director of Sales & Marketing,
Palm Desert Embassy Suites, has joined the meeting today to observe the
Marketing Committee.
Ms. Moore reported that there will be a staff meeting to go over all of the
information and comments gathered from those two meetings. Their goal
was to formulate some new and additional co-op opportunities with the
City's retailers and hoteliers.
XI. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
A. Visitor Center Report
Ms. Gomez reported that the Visitor Center ended this fiscal year with
sales up 4% and visitor numbers up 17%.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
With Committee concurrence the meeting was adjourned at 3:50 p.m.
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