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From: Suzanne Cicchini, Administrative Secretary
Date: September 28, 2010
Subject: Submission of Approved Minutes for the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee Meeting held on June 29, 2010.
Attached is a copy of the June 29, 2010 Minutes of the Cultural Resources Preservation
Committee Meeting approved by the Committee on September 28, 2010. Please
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Minutes
June 29, 2010
Administrative Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER
Committee Chair pon Graybill called the meeting of the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee to order at 10:00 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Ricki Brodie � Kent Routh
Gale Broeker
Don Graybill
Vera Handley
Kim Housken
Bob Pitchford
Also Present:
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety
Shadow Mountain Golf Club Representatives and Interested Parties
K Kaufmann, Reporter, Desert Sun Newspaper
Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF MAY 25, 2010
Committee Member Kim Housken moved to accept the Minutes as
presented. Committee Member Gale Broeker seconded the Motion. All
were in favor and the Motion passed unanimously.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
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Note: Committee Chair pon Graybill motioned to move ahead on the agenda
to Section IX. Public Hearing. Committee Member Kim Housken seconded
the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Please see Section IX Public
Hearing for information on this item.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. DISCUSS HISTORIC PLAQUE FOR FIRE STATION
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety provided an update on the
plaque for the Fire Station. Discussion commenced on how the Committee
might move forward with a ceremony. Committee Member Kim Housken
informed the Committee that the Historical Society is closed for the summer
and suggested it was better to move on this in the fall. Committee Chair pon
Graybill recommended that if the Committee has additional plaques they could
be presented at one time. Committee Member Kim Housken would like the
ceremonies to be held at the sites. If ten plaques are presented perhaps a
celebration could be held at a later date to commemorate that milestone.
Director of Building and Safety Russell Grance recommended having the
plaque mounted with an unveiling ceremony. The plaque was shown at the
meeting. The Committee thanked Committee Member Bob Pitchford for his
much appreciated original sketches for the plaque design. No action was taken
on this item.
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. DISCUSS AND DETERMINE SUMMER MEETING SCHEDULE
Discussion commenced on whether the Committee would meet this summer. If
a work shop were held in lieu of a regular meeting the Committee could work
on their next application.
Committee Chair pon Graybill moved that the July 27t" meeting be
cancelled and a work shop be held in place of the regular August 31, 2010
meeting. Committee Member Gale Broeker seconded the motion. The
motion passed unanimously.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
None
IX. PUBLIC HEARING
Director of Building and Safety Russell Grance noted that a historic district
designation for Shadow Mountain Golf Club was under consideration today.
Per our ordinance on June 15, 2010, this committee conducted a work shop
hearing testimony from all present at the meeting. Those in attendance were in
agreement with nominating the Shadow Mountain Golf Club located at 73-800
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Ironwood Street for a historic district designation. The club, located in the heart of
the Coachella Valley is surrounded by the Santa Rose and San Jacinto Mountains.
The Shadow Mountain Golf Course was incorporated January 24, 1958. The
course was designed by famed and legendary golfer Gene Sarazen. It was the first
golf course in Palm Desert. It was originally affiliated with the adjacent Shadow
Mountain Tennis Resort. The property is eligible for a historic district designation
criteria as it "exemplifies or reflects special elements of cultural, social, economic,
political, aesthetic, engineering, architectural or natural history" and "reflects
distinctive examples of community planning or significant development pattern,
including those associated with different eras of settlement and growth, agriculture,
or transportation." Mr. Grance announced that a 15 minute video presentation
would commence before the public hearing. The video titled Palm Desert from
Dream to Reality included footage of past events and provided information about
the club's history. The video was not produced by City of Palm Desert.
Committee Chair pon Graybill opened the Public Hearing to Consider
Historic District Designation for The Shadow Mountain Golf Club located at
73-800 Ironwood Street (APN's: 627-370-002, 630-120-008, 630,141,011, 630-
141-001, 630-120-007, 630-120-006, 630-120-003, 627-370-003, 630-120-004, 639-
050-027) as a Local Historic District for City Council approval.
Jan Holmlund, 46 Santo Domingo Drive, Rancho Mirage. Former Cultural
Resources Preservation Committee Member. Educated in history, teaching and
public administration she worked in Historic Preservation in Florida. In New
Mexico, she helped preserve historic adobe churches. She was asked by Ed
Mullins and a local newspaper editor to come to Palm Desert to help invigorate the
Historical Society. Ms. Holmlund came to know a lot about the history in California
and particularly Palm Desert through her work for the County as Head of their
Museum Department and from working with the Historical Society. She was
appointed to the Archives Commission for Riverside County. She indicated she
loved Palm Desert and thought what they are doing was admirable. She was
impressed to see so many people wanting to look after both preservation and
development of their city. Quite often people don't understand that preservation is
their key to the future and does wonderful things for development. Ms. Holmlund
stated that Shadow Mountain Golf Course was the first historic golf course in Palm
Desert. The renowned person who developed it has passed away and that was the
only work which would have made it doubly historic. Sometime after, the course
was renovated. She did not know the details of that renovation. She was hesitant
to declare the original work still historically valid. The planning and layout might be,
but the course has changed a great deal. Her understanding of historic districts is
that they meet the qualifications. The recommendations of the federal government
and historic districts are extremely important to cities that have them. She noted
the City of Palm Desert ordinance would be helpful. Historic districts benefit a
historic area. It doesn't have to be contiguous, but it does have a number of
historic items within that historic designation. Ms Holmlund hopes that it becomes a
very important historic district and believes Shadow Mountain is a very good
candidate. Desert Magazine and Jillian's restaurant are notable as well. A famous
architect did a great many things in Palm Desert. She suggested the Committee
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designate the golf course as a historic city site first, and then pursue a historic
overlay zone. The region under a historic overlay zone does not change its zone
plan. There are a few additional matters that anyone wanting to change historic
facades would need to do. Check with the City and ascertain permission. The
Cultural group and the Planning Department in the City would have to determine
the boundaries of that historical overlay zone. It could include a district called
Shadow Mountain District 1, the very famous swimming pool, the home of the
Lieutenant Colonel who cleaned up General Patton's vehicle station, and a number
of private homes. The Committee would have them if the overlay zone is put over
both the Golf Course, swimming pool, and other historic areas to be determined.
There would be time to set up the boundaries of a historic district and talk to the
people who must acquiesce to that. She believes that they would have a larger,
more important, more serviceable, very valuable historic district for the City.
Generally speaking, historic overlay zones do not require a vote. The City council
can do that. They can simply install the overlay zone over the area that is
determined to be important. She recommended the Committee take their time and
designate the first golf course, as a historic site. She offered to help to make that
happen. Ms. Holmlund requested that the Committee consider her
recommendation strongly before taking any action on naming just a golf course a
historic district. Ms. Holmlund thanked the Committee.
Synova Wilcox, 73620 A Street #A, Golf Course Lane expressed that it was
interesting talking about the golf course being designated and then an overlay
zone. She inquired whether these would both happen at the same time or does
the golf course come first, then an overlay. Former Committee Member Jan
Holmlund responded that a site designation would come first because people
already agreed to that. The overlay would take time and approvals from the
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety and the City Council. Ms. Wilcox
asked if there was a possibility that the overlay zone would not come to be. Ms.
Holmlund responded that it was perFectly possible. But it does not close the door
on declaring a historic district. Ms. Wilcox thanked the Committee.
Michael McFarland, 45-750 San Luis Rey, along with Cindy Calquhoun own
Shadow Mountain Resort, including the often referred to pool portion of all of this.
He inquired if this becomes an overlay would approval of the people within the
zone be required? Ms. Holmlund answered that it's entirely a city matter. Usually it
depends on how the ordinance is written and Russell Grance is the person who
can answer your question. Mr. McFarland wanted to know if it was made an
overlay zone, if the resort was included and made that part of that overlay zone
would any further development be stopped. Russell Grance, Director of Building
and Safety responded that he was not sure where in our ordinance it speaks to
overlay zones. The Cultural Resources ordinance speaks to districts. It speaks to
landmark sites. The overlay zone is not within our purview. In our ordinance, we
look at either a district or an individual landmark. Mr. Grance noted one very key
component of our ordinance is that it requires property owner approval. To say
that the Council can automatically put an overlay zone (which I am not familiar
with) and include your property is probably not correct information. Within the
structure of our ordinance those are the finro items that we can only look at with
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this Committee; an individual site, landmark site or a district. This is a local
ordinance it's not a federal or state dealing with historic properties. When
discussing federal or state, they may have overlay zones. It is not within our
current ordinance. Ms. Holmlund commented that generally it relies on the City
Planning Department. Mr. Grance agreed. Ms. Holmlund stated that overlays only
have the power to do that, rather than this Committee. Mr. Grance responded that
she was correct. That would be the function of a Planning Department. It would go
through a series of ineetings and possibly a public hearing if it was considered at
all. Mr. McFarland inquired whether this was something this group could decide
upon today. Mr. Grance indicated that it wasn't. Mr. McFarland replied "O.K.
perfect." Mr. McFarland thanked the Committee.
Committee Member Kim Housken indicated that along Highway 111 there was a
scenic preservation overlay zone which might cause a harder look at development
on Highway 111 to preserve the views of the surrounding mountains. Ms.
Holmlund (speaking from the back of the room) apologized and thought it was in
the ordinance that they asked to be put in when she was a member of the
Committee. (Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary asked Ms. Holmlund if she
could please come to the microphone) Ms. Housken thought that it was
mentioned in the ordinance but reiterated Mr. Grance's belief that the Planning
Department would initiate an overlay zone. Ms. Holmlund noted that it was initially
in the ordinance but was taken out which meant that the Planning Department
would be in charge of that. Ms. Holmlund did believe that property would still be
protected to some degree under a historic site. She thought that if one was
concerned about development there are things that will protect the property
owner. She mentioned that the zoning ordinance would give the overlay zone tax
benefits for commercial property for renovations. Ms. Holmlund noted that golf
courses are not only green spaces but are also commercial properties. She
suggested they explore this with the Planning Department. She apologized again
and asked everyone to take the time and opportunity to study the ordinance and
work with Mr. Grance on what could be done to make sure their properties are
saved. She encouraged them to look at overlay zoning because she believes
there is no question about the benefits.
Committee Chair pon Graybill inquired if there were any further questions or
comments that would be appropriate at this time? Mr. Graybill requested
Committee Member comments. Committee Member Gale Broeker commented
that she had hard feelings and difficulties coming to grips with a district which is
basically 10 lots. It's a building and a golf course. She opined that this was a site
not a district, regardless that it is a Clubhouse and a golf course of whatever
acreage. Calling it a district never felt right to her. She encouraged the Committee
to start it out as a historic site and as other things are added on it, it would evolve
into a district. Committee Member Ms. Housken mentioned that she had the same
questions and she mentioned this to Russell Grance, Director of Building and
Safety. It could be argued either way. Ms. Housken offered In May, 2010 that she
would try to research historic golf courses and there are historic golf courses on
the national registry. A miniature golf course is also on the national register. There
is one in lowa which is part of a golf course considered a historic district. Another
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golf course that is a historic district is in Atlanta, Georgia. IYs the oldest planned
golf course and country club so she thought it would be easier for her if we were
tying in the homes around it. Ms. Housken understood why they were not doing
that. Perhaps it would not include all of the homes anyway. There is a precedent
for it. Ms. Housken definitely sees the significance of Shadow Mountain Golf
Course and she agrees with the designation of it as a historic entity. It typified
what our city is built on; the tourism and recreation industry. She is definitely
moving forward with it. She liked the idea of the overlay zone and she thought Ms.
Holmlund's suggestion to look into it was a good one. Perhaps they could begin to
tie in the pool and reunite the finro parts. Committee Member Kim Housken
acknowledged that it was a different way to go and not really tying us in at this
point. Committee Member Bob Pitchford inquired if a district had boundaries?
Committee Chair pon Graybill responded affirmatively. Mr. Pitchford inquired if
they were dimensioned boundaries? Mr. Graybill cited that they are parceled.
Director of Building and Safety Russell Grance informed them of the map, they
are legal parcels. Mr. Pitchford wanted to know where the boundary between
Shadow Mountain Golf Club and the Country Club occurred. Mr. Grance referred
him to the site map. A proposed boundary map was up on the board (at the front
of the room). Mr. Grance mentioned that early on in discussions with Dan
Pederson, Councilman Kelly and himself, they discussed whether Shadow
Mountain Golf Club would be a district or a site. Looking at the ordinance, it really
is not clear. They reviewed the definition of a historic district versus a site. The
district does not have to have contiguous boundaries, meaning there could be
different spacing within a different geographical area. This fit more into a district
rather than a historic landmark site. There are twelve lots; they are not all
contiguous. It fit better into the historic district process and it allowed per the
ordinance, additional workshops versus a landmark site where workshops do not
have to be conducted. This selection provided a more comprehensive thorough
review to obtain public input. It was the impetus of going with a district rather than
a landmark site. Committee Member Ricki Brodie commented that she was very
much in favor of it. It's well thought out and well done.
Committee Member Kim Housken motioned she was for authorizing staff to
prepare the resolution to approve the historic designation for the Shadow
Mountain Golf Club at 73800 Ironwood Street. Committee Member Vera
Handley seconded the motion. Committee Chair pon Graybill called for a
vote on the motion; the motion passed unanimously. Director of Building
and Safety Russell Grance requested a show of hands so that the historic
moment could be documented in a photograph for Shadow Mountain Golf
Club.
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X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
Committee Member Gale Broeker inquired what site the Committee would be
working on at the next work shop. Director of Building and Safety Russell Grance
responded that it was the Portola Community Center. Committee Member Kim
Housken opined that she discovered errors in the video presentation. She
wondered if we might try to fix those before showing it again. Mr. Grance indicated
that it was not the City of Palm Desert's video and he could not fix it. Some
committee members expressed concern about the accuracy of the video especially
the lack of inention of significant people. Clifford Henderson was mentioned
throughout the video, but his brother Randall was not. Committee Member Vera
Handley cited that Chuck Aston was not mentioned. There was no discussion of
the Desert Magazine. It is noted that the information within the video was basically
true, with the exceptions the Committee raised. The video was not recently
produced and was not created by the City of Palm Desert. Mr. Grance expressed
that the video illustrated that Shadow Mountain was very important in the
development of Palm Desert. Committee Member Kim Housken agreed that it was
the heart of the community.
Reporter K Kaufmann announced that this would be her last meeting as the Palm
Desert beat reporter. Her assignment has changed to the business desk where
she will cover green technology and some retail. She will still be writing some Palm
Desert stories but she is not the lead reporter on the beat anymore. Her successor
has not been chosen yet. She noted it was a pleasure coming to these Committee
meetings. She noted that her successor will do an equally good job. The
Committee thanked K Kaufmann for a job well done.
Committee Member Kim Housken inquired whether anyone was going to the
California Preservation Sustainability Conference on June 30, 2010. No one had
planned on attending. Committee Member Vera Handley inquired whether Mr.
Grance thought they were proceeding well. Mr. Grance thought they were doing
an excellent job. Ms. Handley commented that she thought that also and thanked
him for all of his work. Mr. Grance noted that huge steps were being made and it
benefits City of Palm Desert and property owners. He thought this was what
Council envisioned; preserving our past with people's permission. In some
jurisdictions their historic ordinances do not provide flexibility. Ours is unique and it
brings more cohesive participation. Committee Member Gale Broeker inquired
when the staff report would be ready for Council. Mr. Grance indicated the staff
report and resolution were finished. The matter will be presented to Council at the
August 26, 2010 City Council meeting which starts at 4:00 p.m. Mr. Grance noted
that it will be a Public Hearing and will be noted in the Desert Sun newspaper.
Mr. Conrad Kauble of Shadow Mountain Golf Club, 46080 Burroweed Lane wished
to thank the Committee and especially Director of Building and Safety Russell
Grance on the ease of this process and the professionalism and extreme interest
in the history of Palm Desert that was shown. Mr. Kauble noted that it was
pleasure working with all of them. Committee Chair pon Graybill wanted to thank
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the members of the Shadow Mountain Group for their interest and initiative in this
process. It was good to see it coming from the group themselves.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Committee Chair pon Graybill adjourned the meeting and Public Hearing at 11:03
a.m.
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Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary
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