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- APPROVED MINUTES
' Wednesday, July 21, 2010 — 3:00 p.m.
Administrative Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Kermode called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Member Joan Beasley Member Betty Carapellese
Member Lois Cardona Member Marilyn Hahn
Member Ella Manor Vice Chair Bobbie Rosenberg
Chairman Louise Kermode
Also Present: CITYCOUNCILACTION
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Jean M. Benson, Councilmember RECEIVEDi,.� OTHER
Jeannie Kays, City Librarian
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Ori�inal on File with City Clcr�t's Ofiice
None
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Palm Desert Library Promotion Committee
Meeting of April 28, 2010.
Rec: Approve as presented.
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Upon motion by Member Beasley, second by Member Manor, the Consent
Calendar was approved as presented by a 4-0 vote.
Chairman Kermode requested clarification of several items from the last
Library Committee meeting:
-- Sister Cities Art Display
Ms. Klassen noted that Mr. Marman had indicated he wanted to
make a special presentation, and she would contact him to remind
him to do so.
Councilmember Benson stated that the Sister Cities Committee
was dark in July and August, so perhaps Mr. Marman was
preparing for the presentation. She added that Sister Cities
Committee was happy that the Library Committee had approved
the display of this artwork and felt it would be a good outlet for
people to see it.
Chairman Kermode asked whether there was an issue with regard
to where to place the artwork, and Ms. Kays responded that they
had exhibited a Sister Cities display in the past, and there was
some space available at the Library to do this again.
-- Budget Line Items
Ms. Klassen stated that the way the City recognized the Library
fund was one item; however, the Committee does make
recommendations line by line. She said if adjustments and/or
increases needed to be made in certain areas in the future, that
could be done, and staff could take that forward.
-- LSSI and Riverside County Economic Development Agency
Councilmember Benson stated that LSSI is a company that runs
libraries. Six or seven years ago, when the County decided it
wanted out of the library business, it prepared a Request for
Proposals (RFP), and LSSI was given the contract.
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Mr. Sergio Pena, Development Specialist with the County of
Riverside Economic Development Agency (EDA), explained that
the EDA was a department within the County of Riverside. He said
there had been some restructuring within the County with regard to
how the libraries are managed, and they are now being managed
under the EDA umbrella. Financial transactions and the costs for
LSSI are now coming to and from the Economic Development
Agency. The County Librarian is employed within the EDA, and
there is a management figure as well.
Councilmember Benson noted that the late Supervisor Roy Wilson
used to have his own quarterly committee meetings of all the
librarians throughout Riverside County; however, it was her
understanding that group had not been meeting for some time, and
she suggested that Supervisor Benoit's office be contacted to find
out whether he intends to carry that forward.
Ms. Klassen stated that Leticia DeLara from Supervisor Benoit's
office just happened to be present at this meeting. Ms. DeLara said
she would look into this matter.
Chairman Kermode noted that she was talking to people at College
of the Desert today and found out that they do not expect to move
out of the Library for at least four to five years. She said she was
hoping that the meeting room could be expanded somehow,
especially since there was a lot of land there.
Councilmember Benson said there were no funds to expand
anything at the present time. She added that, in her opinion, it
would be better to put another branch somewhere else in the City
rather than expand this one, but that would be sometime down the
road.
V. NEW BUSINESS
None
VI. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
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VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. PRESENTATION OF APPROVED LIBRARY FUND BUDGET FOR
FISCAL YEAR 2010/2011
Ms. Klassen noted that the Library budget was approved by the
City Council at its meeting of June 24, 2010, in the amount
requested by the Committee. She added that while the total was
the same as last year, some of the individual line items had been
adjusted.
With Committee concurrence, the report was received and filed.
B. UPDATE ON LIBRARY REFRESH PROJECT
The following is a verbatim transcript of this portion of the meeting:
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SP Sergio Pena, Riverside County Economic Development Agency
LK Louise Kermode, Library Committee Chair
TH Tim Holt, Holt Architects
JB Joan Beasley, Library Committee Member
AR Andrea Redewill, Holt Architects
JK Jeannie Kays, City Librarian
JMB Councilmember Jean M. Benson
RDK Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk
EM Ella Manor, Library Committee Member
SP First of all, thank you for having us...myself, again. I'm joined by Leticia
DeLara from Supervisor Benoit's office, Tim Holt and Andrea from Holt
Architects out of Rancho Mirage.
LK Would anyone like something to drink? We have cold drinks,
cookies...help yourself.
SP Okay. Just to reiterate my role in this whole process...l'm basically acting
as an agent for the County of Riverside. I review the project concepts that
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Tim generates, or will generate. I'll review the cost estimates, adhering to
County standards, City standards, your standards, and I'll communicate
the facility needs that, you know, you request, the Committee requests,
and anyone else, to make sure that they're integrated into the project and
monitor the different aspects of the project and then provide reports to
whomever would like one. So at this point I would like to really turn it over
to Tim Holt and his team to just give us an overview of his design process.
TH Thank you very much. We appreciate the opportunity to sit and discuss
this with you because I believe it could be said fairly accurately this is not
a real cut and dried, well-understood process. Many times the design
effort that is put forward, not only to create new buildings but to renovate
existing ones, can bring about more questions sometimes than answers.
We interviewed with Sergio's department at Economic Development
Agency about four months ago I believe, something like that, and at that
time proposed to provide a design service to the County and the City and
the Library to...which would include a consulting architectural firm. I know
you just asked that question, so perhaps I'll bounce right to it. We
identified another firm that is San Francisco area based. They are literally
library specialists, having completed over 250 libraries in the last decade
in the United States. Right now their work load is spread out from
Massachusetts to Ohio and Minnesota, Kansas, and they do a lot of work
here in California because, of course, they're based here. Library design
is becoming very, very specialized. As with many others area of life that
we deal with right now, emerging technologies have brought about a
number of new changes and new ways to display, to control books, for
staff to handle things most efficiently, and there are a number of new
factors evolving rather rapidly within the library industry today. It's for that
reason that we felt that our team could be strengthened by a consultant
that really is a hands-on expert and is dealing with these things on a very
large basis continually. So we brought a proposal forward to the County
which includes a firm called Group 4 Architects from the San Francisco
area. They're a consultant to our team, and they will participate primarily
in the programming and the schematic design phases. Those are the
initial design phases as we begin to explore options and that type of thing:
They're very innovative. They've done some extraordinary work. And in
addition to them, we've added to our team a program specialist. She
works exclusively to help to program libraries...that is, to visit the existing
facilities, look at all the various functional aspects within the library itself,
and make recommendations and suggestions as to how that can improve,
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how the system and the display and everything can improve. Her name is
Linda Demmers. She's rather well-known nationally and has provided this
service for some of the most significant new libraries in our country. So
we feel we've got a team assembled that can really bring a very high
quality, innovative, and state-of-the-art response to some of the
challenges that we have here at this library.
We'll undertake this beginning the very first week in August, if that's alright
with you, and we'll initiate the programming process. That, involving those
other two entities, Group 4 and Linda Demmers, is going to take about 60
days to unfold. There will be a series of ineetings here at the Library,
on-site. We'll have some other teleconference type of exchanges with
them as well during that time. But Jeannie's staff will be getting very
familiar with Linda and their Andrea and others that will be here. There
will be a series of workshops, interviews...we're really going to kind of
break down your Library function and then reconstruct it from a conceptual
standpoint. And, of course, in that process, as you might imagine, there
will be many options identified. There's just not one best way to do this
that will be arrived at real quickly, but a series of alternatives or options
will be brought forward, and then we'll have another workshop with you
and exchange which of these three...for example, you may like
component parts of each of the three of them, and so our challenge will be
to take that information, that input back, combine it, and bring forward a
final conceptual plan so that when this work will be done in that first 60
days, so let's say August and September, that amount of intensity will
underway...a lot of interface with the building and with staff. Following
that; which will largely generate the input that we need, we have another
60-day timeframe to allocate to the schematic design phase. This is
where we'll be bringing forward options of various floor plan design
modifications and alternatives. In the meantime, we'll be looking at a
number of other things that we've been asked to consider in the building.
Those would be such things as sustainable, perhaps new sustainable
materials, updating the ADA compliance aspect in terms of toilet room
facilities, there's an exiting issue that needs to be dealt with over on the
south side that enters up to the bathroom area, bringing those toilet rooms
up to ADA compliance standards, looking at the energy consumption issue
of the building and what the energy cost history has been...we'tl be
exploring some of that information and searching in the process for those
types of alternative appendages or changes within the building that might
enhance the energy responsiveness of the building. We'll be looking at
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functional aspects...book drop functions and things like that. There are a
number of new systems out that we would like to explore and see if we
can squeeze them into the budget — that's always a problem, of course,
and a challenge, but that's what you're asking us to do. So we'll bring
forward those types of alternative things as well. I think you can probably
expect, based on what we now view as the scope of this project, it will
be...it will be contained within the existing building, at least inasmuch as
the budget that we have been given to this date. As Jean said, we don't
have any thoughts of additions to the building right now. The funds just
aren't there, but internal modifications...we'll look to enhance the
performance of the climate control system. We'll look to improve the
lighting quality in several areas. We'll look at acoustical issues and where
we have a lot of reverberation that perhaps could be eliminated. The
interior finishes in large measure will be new and changed, the floor
covering for example. We'll be bringing forth several ideas and options for
you in terms of new possible floor coverings, a new color scheme, and
lastly, the furniture issue, everything from book stacks to tables and
chairs, those types of things...we'll be bringing forward alternatives.
Sergio's created a separate budget for the furniture aspect of the project,
which is kind of separate from the building, the actual building
modifications themselves, and from that standpoint, then, we'll deal with
those issues and interface with them as well.
I could probably go on to needless detail right now, but it might be more
beneficial if I just stop right there and ask you what's important to you.
What would you like me to respond to?
JB All of this also includes the College half of the Library, or not?
TH In terms of the programming, we were not asked to reprogram, realign if
you will, redesign the College area. The discussion with regard to that
northerly portion of the building was regarding floor covering and painting,
I believe, was the scope that we were given to consider. And so that's
really the limit of what we expect to do on that northern portion.
AR There was an aspect of consideration in terms of maybe possible future
phasing and looking at kind of a master planning aspect of looking at that
space as a future possibility...limited in the amount of detail that we would
go into.
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TH Realizing, as has already been mentioned, that at some point the College
wili move out, and the rest of the building can be brought up to, hopefully,
the standard that this portion's at.
�B So you will try to maintain the integrity of whatever flooring, cotoring,
painting, whatever...throughout the entire building so that in fhe future it
would mesh.
TH Yes, indeed.
JK And the College did say they would find the money somewhere, at least
for the carpet and possibly the paint (inaudible)
.1B It looks like it will be the beginning of December before the two phases are
done?
TH That is correct. We've been asked to consider possible incremental
periods when there may be a necessity for, or a desirability for, public
exposure, a public meeting, or it's been stated that we will be presenting
this to the City Council at some time, so I've created a schedule that I'll
give to Sergio, and that would allow for the possibility, if they so desire, to
have a presentation to City Council and/or County officials or anyone else
thaYs interested, right at the very beginning of November, the month of
November, right after Halloween, and then another one, if it works out,
about mid-December. I realize the holidays will be coming on quickly at
that time, but we look to wrap up these first two phases, which will then
bring to conclusion Group 4 and Linda Demmers' involvement. And then
my firm, Holt Architects, will take the project to design development, to the
preparation of construction documents, the approval process at DSA,
which is necessary, I think you are aware of that, and then the bidding and
construction administration phases of the work as well.
JB How long is that usually?
TH I kind of roughed out some thoughts for you as to what we might expect.
So assuming the first two phases are completed by mid-December, the
design development phase will occur in January and February of 2011.
That will need your approval prior to moving on to construction
documents, the preparation of the construction drawings. That's a three-
to four-month process. That will take us through about April of...
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AR June
TH ...June, I'm sorry, June of 2011, and then we'll submit at that time to the
State agency, DSA, for the plan check review...
RDK ThaYs the State Architect, right?
TH The Office of State Architect, exactly. And Steve Renew is pretty
emphatic about the need to do that because the building is located on the
campus...many students will be coming in and out...l suppose somebody
could contend that, but it's okay. The accessibility issues will be resolved.
There will be no new structural concerns for them, and the Fire Marshal
we work with all the time, so those are the finro primary components at the
DSA office, so I'm not expecting an overly lengthy or complex plan check
process at the State. That would be followed by a competitive bidding
process, and we usually allow about 60 days for that from the time of
advertisement to the construction industry, conducting pre-bid
walk-throughs or conferences at the Library for bidding contractors,
receiving bids, analyzing them, confirming the validity of their bonding
situation, and then getting a contract written to enter construction and
authorize them to proceed...that's about a 60-day time frame. So that's
going to take us into about September of 2011. And the construction
period, I believe, is going to be a real challenge because I know that you
want to operate the Library and have us rebuild it all at the same time, so
there will be, I think, a need to recognize that the construction duration will
be a little longer than it would be if the building were vacated or if it were
new. I'm allowing in my mind right now about an eight-month...l think
that's very conservative...it may be as short as six...for construction. If
that were the case, you could look to occupy the entirely refurbished
building, with new furniture and finishes, at about May or June of 2012.
SP Okay. So these dates and time frames, I'm sure, are kind of a shock to
everyone...Tim and I, we did kind of digest them and go through them.
Comments?
JK So...okay, I have a comment. So this schedule that you originally
presented where construction was going to start in January is...
SP Correct
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JK ...wrong.
SP Well...
JK Because we planned our adult programs based on your schedule, and
now...
SP Okay...well, we were two weeks away...we were two weeks behind on
executing his agreement, so I lost two weeks there...
JK Okay, so construction is expected to begin when?
TH About October.
JB Of 2011...
TH Of 2011... and it will extend through the early portion of 2012. It may be
able to wrap up in April/May.
JB Six to eight months.
JK Okay, so January is now October.
TH Yeah, we're...it's like six to eight months.
JK Okay...because we, you know, we have seasons, and...
TH Okay
JK ...summer reading, so (inaudible)
SP Now, in previous conversations I've had with, you know, yourself, Barbara
Howison, the initial kind of reaction we get is...the design process, as
defined, can...l don't want to say it can be a leisurely pace, but we can do
it in such a way...
RDK (inaudible)
SP Oh, okay...is that what it is?
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RDK Since you're soft spoken anyway (inaudible) doesn't amplify, but we do
need it for the tape, but you could speak up just slightly.
SP Oh, okay, I'm sorry. So the initial direction, I think, from the
comments/reactions we received is make sure we can do it right because
once we get into construction, we're going to have to do it very quickly or
in such a way that there are no disruptions or very minimal disruptions to
the library operations. So, you know, that's the direction Tim Holt
received. He has generated this schedule based on those interpretations.
There are always ways we can do...to compress this schedule. This is, I
think, a first take, you know, a first choice and a preferred schedule, but I
think the question maybe we have to you is...is this acceptabte, is this
kind of what you're expecting?
JB What's the choice?
SP I mean, there are ways, there are things we can do, but is the necessity
there for us to speed it up?
JB You could.
SP Tim?
TH I think...
JB (inaudible) to wait for are the way they are.
TH That's my feeling. Thank you. At the same time, there's a full-on
recognition, on our behalf, that to expedite the project is in everyone's best
interest, and we fully realize that. We might ask Jeannie if there's a
particular time of the year that you would favor or that would be most
beneficial for the intensity of the construction operation to occur. Would
you rather have it in the summer, or would you rather have it in the winter?
Or does it really make that much difference based on the function and how
many folks are coming and going?
JK Yeah, the least busy time because we have about 20,000 people a month
coming through the Library, and we circulate 33,000 items a month.
We're very busy. When you say the working with Linda Demmers is going
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to take place in August and September, those are probably our slowest
months. So she's going to see us at our most leisurely. You know, she's
going to see us at our down time, and she's not going to see us in our
busy, busy time, so we'll have to, you know...l know she's a professional
(inaudible), but those months would be really good for construction. It's
really hot here, but those would be the months where we don't have
anything of significance going on. As far as our big season, the snowbirds
arrive in October, and they stay til about April, so October through April is
one of our busiest times of the year, and then right now we're in the
middle of summer reading program, so June and July are really busy.
TH So if construction were to wrap up in September, that would almost be
ideal for you. If construction could conclude...
JB That would be a miracle, wouldn't it?
JK Would it make much of a difference if we were closed? I can't make that
decision, but a lot of us are looking at each other going "How are we going
to be open with paint fumes and carpet glue and noise?"
TH It's a very good question. If it were possible to not be open during that
period, it would, one, expedite the process. It would keep the public and
staff from having to deal with the issues of dust and construction activity,
which is...it's virtually impossible to do it without some of that. The
contractors will be directed to shield everything and to tape it all of and
everything, but it's a significant challenge in any public building to do that.
You can imagine what it's like in your own homes, but now take it to a
public building. And this one's got an unusual shape to it, as you very well
know. This room right here would be a whole lot easier to work in than
that fibrary, so...with curved surfaces and the roof situation and things like
that. It's going to be something that we have to handle delicately, but I, for
one, am not expecting the construction operation to be 100% dust-free
and that kind of thing...it's not going to happen in this world, so...they'll do
the very best they can, I don't want to alarm you. But if you could work on
something like that, it would enhance the process and keep everybody
healthy and so on. And if it's that much of a benefit, Sergio, I'm certainly
willing to look at what we might be able to do in terms of the sequencing to
accelerate the schedule. I hesitate to make too many promises this early.
I think that we are collectively going to have a really interesting and
informative, insightful experience this fall with this process, with Linda and
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Group 4, and if we can move that process along very, very much
according to schedule and have a really good understanding, the rest of
the project, I believe, can go very smoothly, and we can look at ways that
we might expedite things. And perhaps something like a pre-meeting
down at DSA's office will help us, if we go down when we're maybe
three-quarters completed with the construction documents and give them
a heads-up and that type of thing. We're certainly willing to do that. That
is probably in my mind the single greatest variable, by the way, on this
schedule. I offer that perhaps they can do it within a 30-day time frame,
and I hope I'm not being too optimistic, but we'll do everything we can to
contain it.
JMB Would it be possible if you could set, number one, if you were going to
close, would it be a week, two weeks? How much time...in closing, how
much time do you need?
TH I need more like three to four months.
�B Yeah, there's no point in closing for two weeks.
JMB I thought he was just saying that the carpet and the things that were
disruptive to the people coming in and out. Painting is...
JK There's a...l think there's a lot.
TH There's a lot...
JK (inaudible) the ceiling's got stains...
JMB So would it be possible to have the Bookmobile outdoors during that time
so that it isn't completely closed and you've got a place to...
�B People could check out books.
JK The other big problem is that the College of the Desert will be open during
the school year, and they'll expect us to have their side open.
�B Right
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JK So the schedule you listed October through May, it almost seems like it
should be the opposite...
TH May through October
JK ...May through October, because the College is closed for the summer,
and I expect that they will probably be closed (inaudible)
RDK Or would there be a possibility with limited hours...maybe open four hours
a day and then give the rest of the time for construction? I know the City
does a lot of projects at night and has in the past, even when we did some
remodeling in the interior.
TH Absolutely, that is a possibility.
JK I mean, I'm flexible, but I'm not in charge of the schedule.
RDK Right. We might have to work very closely with the County...so maybe like
a limited schedule.
JK And maybe we could find an alternative location for our summer reading
program (inaudible)
LK What's in the old library building on Portola?
JK That's the Community Center.
RDK That's for community purposes, and there are some offices there. It's
rented out for other purposes, for community purposes.
JMB You know, you might want to look at, for the alternative reader...for the
kids' summer program...the Senior Center is always looking for
inter-generational programs. Maybe they'd be interested, and they've got
room over there. They might be interested in hosting the kids for the
summer for their reading program...
JB I think that's a great idea.
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JMB ...and it's convenient, you know, it's not that far. I'm sure Peter
Rittenhouse would be willing to work with you in their community rooms
that they have there, and it would be an inter-generational thing, and some
of the seniors can help with it.
AR One of the things that, also, during the early programming and schematic
design phase that will probably help in the phasing of construction is
something called the marketplace that Group 4 originally presented, and
that will provide some opportunities for us to explore different ways for the
library to operate in a limited function while construction is going on. And
for those of you who are not aware of the marketplace concept, Group 4
will be talking about it a lot more in depth, but it goes into looking at areas
of the library that can function at limited hours without your full staff,
whether it's the book drop or the check out situation, while the remaining
library remains closed...and kind of looking at how we can design a
building that can operate in different modes and with different capacities of
staff. So that would probably be one aspect that we'll be looking for, and I
think as we move forward, as Tim said, a lot more things will come into
place, and we can continue to look at how we can appropriately construct
a building that meets your operations.
JK And just to...l appreciate your honesty about the timeline. Nothing would
be more annoying than to say, "Oh, we're behind (inaudible)" instead of
saying, "Look, it's going to take this long", you know....l appreciate that.
I'd rather know up front than to be surprised and have it keep being
pushed back.
TH Public sector design and construction is virtually exclusively what we do,
and I understand extremely well the steps that must be taken and the
approval processes that are appropriate to it, the factors that must come
into play. The timeline that I've identified also seeks to accomplish
high-quality documents. So if we can have high-quality, complete,
error-free documents, it means so much more during the construction
process because we don't have to continually be contending with
contractors regarding change orders but even worse, coming back to you
requesting additional funds, which could be very awkward, and iYs a place
I don't like to be. So we work hard to try to control that on the front end of
the project. Does it take a little bit more time to do it well and do it
thoroughly? Of course. That's what we're going to seek to do.
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JB in the first phase, from August 1St to October 1St, the first 60 days, where
you said there would be meetings and workshops...
TH Yes
JB Is that just within the Library or for the community or...?
TH ThaYs up to you. We're going to be scheduling things witfi Jeannie and
her staff, and if you want to bring other folks into those interchanges, they
are more than welcome. I think, speaking for Group 4 and Linda, we'd
rather err on the side of getting all this information up front.and not leaving
it till down in the sequence where that will cause two steps forward, three
steps back dancing, and we'd like to stay away from that if we could. So
whoever, the stakeholders, the end users, the folks that really need to
provide input, we'd invite that to happen. Yes (inaudible)
�B Well, the August to October 1St time, the year-round residents are
available and are here. The winter people aren't. So I don't know if
they're kind of being left out of that. I don't know if that matters that much.
EM I think it does. They always say we do things in the summer time when
people can't...
�B ...give their input? I don't how big of a deal that is, and I don't know how
you could change that when, you know, August to October...
SP A way we can consider that is we can push it back (inaudible) but then
again, it puts everything else back.
.1B But that's opposite of what we're trying to do.
SP Yeah
AR Do you have a database of users that, you know, maybe if people aren't
around, they can still be contacted (inaudible)?
SP Yeah, that's a great idea. Do we have a way to communicate with
them...email, phone...to invite them?
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JK We do have...well, we have our library card database, but I'm not sure of
the privacy (inaudible)
EM What about the newsletter?
RDK The newsletter we can do, and that goes online, but it only...it won't hit
people that aren't here. It only hits residences that are in Palm Desert, but
definitely we will make announcements as appropriate, you know, that
there is a public forum or a public idea session...absolutely. We have
gone down to two...our BrightSide is a two-month item instead of a
monthly item now as a cost-saving measure.
SP Oh
RDK And I believe the September/October is about full, but if you knew here
within the next two to three weeks...two weeks, yeah, I think about August
15t" would be the deadline...we could announce it in the
September/October, and then the next one would be
November/December, the next BrightSide issue.
SP Any other comments on...for Tim, his group, moving forward? I do have
to apologize a little bit, before we move on, about the last schedule that I
sent out. I did notice from one of the phases, from construction
documents to 50% construction documents, that the dates did not
populate themselves, they weren't linked, so the durations did not add to
themselves. So...it's a mistake on my part. So what that means is
that...do you have copies of what you have?
TH I do.
SP Now, take them with a grain of salt. IYs a work in progress.
TH Andrea prepared these this afternoon, and we were very careful to put the
word "draft" on it.
SP Great, thank you, I appreciate that.
TH It's just the first shot on the wall here, and I think in the coming weeks and
months, we'll be able to refine this more and, if anything, we'll try to see if
we can tighten it up as best we can.
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SP So, with that being said, I think we're...l apologize we don't have any
visuals to show or more progress, but hopefuliy...you know, we've already
contracted...we've had it before, and so we are showing some (inaudible)
and hopefully we are meeting your expectations. If we're not, please let
us know. We'll be more than happy to be accommodating and respond to
your requests.
LK Is there any date for another meeting at (inaudible)
SP Well, actually, I think we do. For this particular group, I don't know, we
haven't decided, but, you know, Rachelle...you let us know.
RDK September?
�B Well, that's when they said they'd be getting...taking ideas...after
September they're putting it on paper.
SP Correct
AR And I think we are looking to have our first site visit with Group 4 and
Linda Demmer to be August 30th and 31St, if that would work with you all.
JB To attend it or to plan our next meeting after that?
AR Well, probably...
TH I think if you can coincide them, it might be most time-efficient, unless you
have other things to deal with that...
JB And when and where...that's going to be at the Library?
TH At the Library the final two days of August...the 30th and 31St.
JK I know you talked about programming...during the month of August, will
people be contacting us about (inaudible)?
TH Yes, we will.
JK Will you be working privately or...?
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TH Pretty much privately, but we will be in contact with you about information
that we're going to ask of you, and there will be some forms that we'd like
to get filled out prior to that first site visit.
�B What other groups of people or...who else should be there to give input at
that time do you think?
AR I think we're still working out...within the next week or so, we're working
on kind of a final agenda. We wanted to proposed a date for you to make
sure there is no conflict, and then we're putting together the exact
schedule of the days, and then we can conform...
JB For example, would City Council people be coming to that? You know, is
that what it's for?
TH If they would like to provide input into library functions and some of their
preferences, of course.
SP Is it okay to have kind of an expanded discussion at this time?
RDK Yes, that's exactly what this is for.
SP Okay, great. If I can answer that in two parts. One part is how Tim
responded to the question before, trying to get all the input all at once so
that, you know, we can digest all the different issues, concerns, and
idiosyncrasies of problems that we could have if we're not thinking about
this quite right. That's one approach that requires a lot of due diligence, a
lot of work. It looks like he's up for the task, so that's great. A different
approach is to select a narrow group of people that creates a strata of a lot
of opinions within the community to expedite the decision making process.
Now, when I talked about maybe consolidating the schedule, I was
thinking along those lines. Are we creating the right process for this
group? Is it too cumbersome? You know. Is expediting it more important
than community input? It sounds like we want some input.
JB So by the end of August you wilt have already spent a month with staff...
SP Correct
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JB ...(inaudible) you know, suggestions, ideas and looked at the library and
gotten (inaudible)
TH We will, but Group 4 will be here for the first time...
JB Yeah, but they'll be the kind of things they (inaudible) they will have
gathered information for 30 days, seemingly, so then...
EM 60 days
JB No, the end of August...
AR We would be planning on kicking off early in August, within this two or
three weeks, and we'd be looking at a lot of data and, you know,
demographics and a lot of research and data that...
JB Will you be talking to Library staff?
AR Yeah, and requesting information, you know, like this information
(inaudible) looking at that. The first site visit, with Group 4 and Linda
Demmers, we'd be looking to really start to engage the staff with staff
interviews, possibly some user surveys, focus group meetings, and then
potentially a meeting with whoever that you guys decide are the key
decision holders...
JB The meetings with the staff that you just mentioned are in late August?
AR Yes
JB Prior to this date or...
AR This is the date (inaudible) two-day workshop...
SP I think that's where....l'm getting lost myself. Okay, so the difference
between Holt and Group 4 and the meetings with staff...l think that's
where we need clarification.
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TH We'll all be there, together, on the 30t" and 31 St to conduct interviews,
workshops, we're going to probably ask Jeannie to set those two days
aside and give us accessibility to the building and her people as much as
is possible.
SP And prior to is the fact finding for preparation for those two days.
TH Exactly.
JMB I think it would be...in looking at the schedule here, if your 10/4-10/5 Site
Visit 3 to Present Draft Program and Design Option...l think if you
presented that at the last Council meeting September...we only have two,
and we'll be busy the first couple ones because we don't meet till the end
of August and first of September, but if we had at the first of September's
meeting that design that you're going to present...
RDK But what about the Library Committee seeing it on the 15t"? The Library
Committee would be set to meet on the 15th, and then we could take that
to Council at the second meeting...
JMB At the second meeting?
RDK But it sounded to me as though they weren't making a presentation to the
Council until November. I heard that earlier.
SP Yeah.
TH Yes. If you look...
RDK With something more fleshed out. They'll be getting...l'm taking
something...l'm just going to say that we've discussed this, we'll take
these Minutes to the August 26th meeting as an informational item. That
was the City Manager's and my thinking, so we will be making it, other
than the question in the press already, we will be making everyone
aware...
JMB Then you might tell John to add to that information that if any
Councilmember wants to add any...
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RDK Provide input
JMB ...in the interim to contact you.
RDK Yes
JMB And that would expedite that because somebody's going to have
something to say, I'm sure, but we don't want them to say, "Well you
asked us last."
RDK Right
JMB In that memo, then, on September, you could get the Council input.
RDK Sure. And then....we typically take August off. This group is
typically...hardly any committees meet in August, so if we did meet again,
the next available date would be September 15tn
JMB That would be before the presentation on the 17th, so...for the Library
Committee, because we said the 17�h, right? 10/04...
RDK Right
JMB ...10/5, Site Visit to Present Draft Program, and that draft program could
be at that...
RDK Our next regular meeting would be September 15t". How does that fit
in...and you would have more information, you'd have more background
then, that you'd have something more to show us, or...?
TH Oh sure, we'd bring you updates.
RDK And we could invite you as a Committee, you could be...the only thing is,
any time you have a quorum, we have to notice it. As you know, Brown
Act regulations and things, so if you were all...we'd have to notice it as a
Study Session on the 30t", on the 31St....which of the days did you want to
be there, did you want to be there both, how much staff, you know...?
JB Oh yeah, we can deal with that.
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RDK Okay. That is the only...
JB We can use a pseudonym or something.
RDK I mean if two at a time were to go, or something like that.
JK You know, we can invite the Friends President...
RDK Sure
JK ...and volunteers.
(inaudible)
RDK There you go, okay, right.
TH This group, right?
RDK Right, we're the Library Promotion Committee.
TH And thaYs the 15th of...
RDK September.
TH September, yeah.
RDK That would be our regular meeting date at three o'clock.
JB Okay, my question is...on the 30th and 31St, are there going to be reporters
there?
SP I don't know....Miss Blake?
RDK There would be if it's a noticed meeting.
(inaudible)
SP I'm sorry, has everyone met Miss Blake?
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RDK We didn't introduce her. Blake Herzog is our new reporter, beat reporter,
for the City of Palm Desert.
JB She does a fine job.
RDK Yeah. She wrote the nice article that we received.
SP Thank you.
JB There will be notice to the public, so other people might be there.
SP Oh, I see.
JK Probably what we would do is focus on staff the first day and then have
the second day for input. And Indio (inaudible) and invited different people
(inaudible)
JB Okay, that sounds good.
SP Have there been any other public notices where you ask the public to
come to...l'm trying to get a sense for the amount of public that actually
comes out.
JB Well, on August 31 St, there won't be a heavy turnout.
RDK I think school starts on the 30th, if I'm not mistaken, for some districts. And
I believe...yes, I have someone on my staff who has already asked for
that day, that morning, because she needs to take her kids to school, and
they go to Washington Charter.
(inaudible)
SP Is that the right day? I mean, this is kind of why, you know...
RDK That's why we're here.
SP ...we need to ask. You don't have to answer it now. Just take it home
and let us know.
JB This is the first day of school? Oh, boy.
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(Inaudible)
JB You know you have to go forward and do what you have to do (inaudible)
JK (inaudible)
TH That's fine. Just so you know, this is just a proposed series of dates, and
we certainly can be flexible. If the two prior days work better for you or
something, don't hesitate to suggest that. We can maneuver this a little
bit.
JB Now's the time (inaudible)
JK Well, if we could push it up a week, that would be good, but I know
(inaudible) your prep work, and you can't get it done, we'll make it work,
but the 23rd 24m Would be better. I didn't realize that that was the first day
of school.
TH Let us explore that and see if we can schedule that with Group 4.
JK Okay.
SP Great, thank you for your input, again. Do you have anything else for us?
JB Very coherent presentation...thank you.
SP Thank you.
LK And we will be seeing you.
RDK Thank you.
SP Thank you for your time.
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VIII. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Councilmember Jean M. Benson
Councilmember Benson said she felt the Library Refresh Project
would be very well received by Council, which is willing to do
anything it can to help with the project.
B. Librarian (Jeannie Kays)
Ms. Kays provided updates/reports on the following:
2010 Census — The Palm Desert Library is a Census Partner and
had agreed to provide meeting space for them. This meeting space
was used to train Census workers and was now being used during
the counting process.
Younq Adult/Teen Proaram — Attendance is up, and the Program is
really active. The Teen Librarian was doing a nice job in building
rapport with the teens and developing programs that they like. This
week, as part of the Summer Reading Program, the kids made
hydro-bracelet, which were plastic tubing filled with water and
glitter. The cost for the entire craft for 50 kids was $7.00.
Summer Reading Proqram — Sign-ups are up 15% over last year.
As of the end of June, 770 children and teens were enrolled in
Summer Reading compared with 668 last year.
Book Budqet — LSSI and the County were still working on the
contract, so the amount for the book budget this year had not yet
been established. Right now, only funds from the Friends of the
Library and the City of Palm Desert were available to purchase
books.
C. Event Coordinator (Jodi Elowitz)
Ms. Elowitz reviewed the recent events at the Library, including the
cardboard cutouts of the three characters in the "Twilight" movies,
which were very popular with Library attendees,
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Adult Summer Proqram — There were no real adult programs this
summer, as Ms. Elowitz had been spending her time getting ready
for 2010/2011, which would now be extended due to the Library
Refresh Project schedule. She noted she had bookings through
February and did not think it would be difficult to find someone for
March.
T is for Tuesdav — New program for the fall where every Tuesday
night there will be some form of adult programming beginning with
the letter "T" — different topics or themes such as Talent,
Technology, Teaching, etc. The entire staff of the Library will be
involved, and each staff member with a particular interest or
particular expertise will lead the program one of those Tuesday
nights.
Breakfast. Books and Banter — This book club was being held
Wednesday mornings at 9am and is being moved to Tuesday
nights, and the topics will be changed to appeal to a wider age
group.
Chef Series — This event will continue, and she has eight chefs
already, including a few new and some old favorites.
Ms. Elowitz distributed copies of fliers that had been printed for the
Summer Reading Programs and noted the new "Dog Days of
Summer" program being launched this week. She said there would
be dog books in the display areas of the Library for both adults and
kids, and there was also a listing of the books on Facebook and
Twitter.
D. Volunteer Coordinator(Eileen Strain)
Ms. Strain noted that the volunteer numbers from May this year had
increased to 85 compared with 61 last year. Total volunteer hours
for June were 966 compared with 558 hours in May. The number
of teens/young adults had increased as a result of Library staff
going to the schools, with three teens indicating they wanted to
volunteer year-round.
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She noted that last meeting she mentioned getting in touch with the
home assisted living people, which she had done, and she felt it
was paying off in a small way. She had made several visits,
chatted with them, gave them programs, and they signed up. In
addition, she spoke with a gentleman from Segovia today who said
this facility would have approximately 200 residents, and he was
ready to tell them about the volunteer homebound program.
E. Budget Review
Ms. Klassen noted that this was discussed under Old Business
Item A.
F. Friends of the Palm Desert Library (Joan Beasley)
Ms. Beasley distributed and reviewed the Friends of Palm Desert
Library Mid-Year 2010 Financial Status (January — June). She also
reviewed the CFLAC (County Free Library Advisory Committee)
report from the meeting of July 15, 2010, noting that the Palm
Desert Library was the second-most active library in Riverside
County behind Temecula.
She noted that someone at the prior CFLAC meeting had brought
up a question about the laws dealing with access to people's library
records. She said what she could glean from the Minutes of that
meeting was that nobody could come to the library to see what
someone else has checked out. Parents cannot see what their
children have checked out. She said there was some discussion
about that issue at the meeting, and it would be discussed further at
some of the staff training.
Ms. Kays noted that the library card applications had been
changed, and new information had been received regarding
confidentiality. The bottom of the children's application included a
section where the child can give parents permission to see what
he/she has checked out. The law does not specify an age as far as
right to privacy, so from the Library standpoint, every person has
the right to privacy, even a child.
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G. Committee Chair(Louise Kermode)
None
H. Committee Members
None
I. Staff
Ms. Klassen distributed copies of the Holt Architects summarized
presentation that led to that firm being selected as the architectural
group for the Library Refresh Project.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Member Cardona moved to adjourn the meeting at 4:20 p.m. Motion was
seconded by Member Beasley and carried by a 4-0 vote of the Committee.
Mary P. LaCross, Recording Secretary
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