HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Parks and Recreation Commission November 2, 2010CITY OF PALM DESERT
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
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TO: Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk
FROM: Bertha A. Gonzalez, Senior Office Assistant
DATE: December 7, 2010
SUBJECT: Submission of Minutes for the Parks and Recreation
Commission
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 2010 — 8:30 a.m.
Administrative Conference Room — Palm Desert Civic Center
73-510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, California 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Dash convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Chairman Roger Dash
Vice Chair Randy Guyer
Commissioner Phill Babcock
Commissioner Jerry Dawson
Commissioner Deborah Hall
Commissioner Kim Housken
Commissioner Christopher Thomas
Absent
Commissioner Michael Barnard
Staff Present:
Mark Greenwood, P.E., Director of Public Works
Bertha Gonzalez, Recording Secretary
H. Spencer Knight, Landscape Manager
Ryan Stendell, Senior Management Analyst
John M. Wohlmuth, City Manager
Guests:
Barb Adair, Desert Recreation District
Rob Ballew, YMCA of the Desert
Craig DeWitt, Desert Recreation District
David Erwin, City Attorney
Jim Foote, Bureau of Land Management
Stan Ford, Desert Recreation District
Laura McGalliard, Desert Recreation District
Robert A. Spiegel, Councilman
William R. Kroonen, Councilman
Van Tanner, Planning Commission Liaison
Gina Tenorio, The Desert Sun
Tim McElrath
Adam Schmitt
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Chairman Dash introduced and welcomed new Councilmember, William
R. Kroonen.
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
NONE
IV. INTRODUCTION OF LANDSCAPE SERVICES DIVISION STAFF
Mr. Spencer Knight mentioned that the Landscape Services Division
currently oversees 288 acres **Misstated** of parks, medians, and open
space in the City. Of that, 154 acres is parks related, 90 acres is medians,
and 71 acres is open space.
**Upon further calculation, staff found that the actual number of acres staff
oversees is 329 (154 of parks; 105 of medians, and 71 of open space) **
He stated he would like the Commission to meet the Landscape Services
Division field staff and, therefore, asked staff to introduce themselves to
the Commission. Self -introductions were done as follows:
• Randy Chavez, Senior Landscape Inspector, has been with the City
14 years, oversees the special and general needs of all the areas
and works with Mr. Spencer Knight, Ms. Diane Hollinger, Mr. Jay
Niemczak and the inspectors to better maintain and improve the
areas.
• Miguel Garcia, Landscape Inspector II, has been with the City 19
years and oversees the Community Gardens, Joe Mann Park,
Magnesia Falls/Portola Park, Palm Desert Soccer Park, and the
medians of Landscape Maintenance Areas 2 (central) and 7
(Landscape and Lighting Districts).
• Brad Chuck, Landscape Inspector II, has been with the City for 10
years and oversees Civic Center Park, Palma Village Park, and the
medians of Landscape Maintenance Area 9, which includes El
Paseo.
• Ron Tucker, Landscape Inspector II, has been with the City for nine
years and oversees Freedom Park, University Dog Park, University
Park East, and the medians of Landscape Maintenance Areas 4
(north end) and 6 (Desert Willow).
• Sheila McGrew, Landscape Inspector I, has been with the City for
four years and oversees the RDA Housing, Cahuilla Hills Park,
Haystack Drainage and Natural Area, Homme-Adams Park,
Ironwood Park, Washington Charter, and the medians of
Landscape Maintenance Area 1(south end).
• Ernie Owens, Parks Inspector, has been with the City for over 20
years and oversees the landscape irrigation of all the medians and
parks.
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• Diane Hollinger, Landscape Specialist, has been with the City nine
years, has about 18 years of experience in horticulture, works with
Randy Chavez on projects, provides technical support to staff, does
the plan checking, and oversees the Arbor Day and Turf Retrofit
Programs.
• Jay Niemczak, Parks Manager, oversees the Capital Improvements
Projects, which includes the Cahuilla Park Pickleball Courts, the
parks structures, playgrounds, and improvements, assists the
inspectors' transition to the parks, and works with the Desert
Recreation District and the Trails to coordinate programming.
Councilman Bob Spiegel stated that he believes the City of Palm Desert
has the best parks in the valley and applauded staff for the work they do.
Chairman Dash thanked everyone on behalf of the Commission for taking
the time to introduce themselves to the Commission and for addressing
the comments made in their inspection reports so diligently.
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF TUESDAY,
OCTOBER 5, 2010
Vice Chair Guyer clarified that his inquiry on the abandoned well
site was for Ironwood Park, not Haystack. Staff stated the research
was done on the Ironwood well site and the correction will be
reflected in the Minutes.
Upon a motion by Chairman Dash, second by Vice Chair Guyer, and 7-0
vote of the Commission Board, the Consent Calendar was approved with the
above clarification.
In addition, Chairman Dash asked for Item A of Presentations, Update on
the Aquatic Center, to be moved to Item A of Continued Business,
because he would like to further discuss the item and it might require a
motion from the Commission. Upon the Commission's concurrence, Item
A of Presentations was moved under Continued Business.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. CONSIDERATION TO RELOCATE PETANQUE COURT TO HOVLEY
SOCCER PARK
As requested at the previous meeting, Mr. Ryan Stendell presented the
Commission with a proposal that detailed the relocation of the Civic
Center Petanque Court to the Hovley Soccer Park. After visiting the
site, staff and members of the Petanque Club identified a turf area
adjacent to the Basketball Court that could be used for the Petanque
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Court. The Club indicated that the area in connection with the area
currently occupied by shuffleboard would be sufficient for their
tournaments. The areas are in close proximity to each other and have
access to a picnic pavilion and restroom facilities.
The Commission was informed that the conversion of the areas will be
completed in two phases. The first phase will include replacing the
concrete strips in the shuffleboard area with decomposed granite and
then leveling. The second phase will involve replacing the turf
adjacent to the basketball court with compacted decomposed granite.
However, in order to ensure a complete turf removal, this phase will be
completed in the spring when the Bermuda grass is returning from
dormancy.
Following Commissioner Dawson's motion to accept staff's
recommendation, Vice Chair Guyer asked how the installation of
decomposed granite will affect the traffic flow to and from the
basketball courts. Mr. Stendell stated that it will have no affect and
according to him, it is easier to walk on decomposed granite than on
turf. Yet, should the Commission request it, an area of turf could be
left in place. Responding to Commissioner Dawson's inquiry, Mr.
Stendell stated there is a row of trees that creates a buffer between the
Horseshoes Pits and Petanque Court that will help differentiate
between the two courts. Commissioner Dawson also asked if staff
could install a sign describing the sport and providing contact
information for anyone who would like to know more about it. The
Commission recalled that a past motion was put in place to remove the
shuffleboard courts due to the lack of use and install additional
horseshoe pits. Staff was not aware of the motion, but Mr. Spencer
Knight stated that there is ample space to add the additional
horseshoe pits and a petanque court. Therefore, the Commission
asked staff to investigate if there is a standing motion regarding
additional horseshoe pits, reexamine the area in order to establish if
both items can be added, and return the item to the Commission for
consideration.
No motion; the item was continued.
B. CONSIDERATION TO REMOVE THE CIVIC CENTER WATER PLAY
FEATURE
Mr. Stendell reported that the maintenance and costs that are related
to the use of the Rainbow/Sunflower water feature adjacent to the Civic
Center Tot Lot are extensive. During the winter and early spring, staff
typically turns the water feature off due to the cold temperatures.
However, park users tend to remove the valve boxes and turn the
feature on manually. In addition, the drainage in the area is very poor.
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Staff believes that with the construction of the Aquatic Center, which
includes a water play component, it is the right time to remove the
feature. It will lead to a significant cost savings while relieving the City
from the continual maintenance that is associated with this feature.
In response to Vice Chair Guyer's question, staff stated that the feature
can only use domestic water because of the nature of its usage.
Commissioner Babcock inquired if additional police could patrol the
park and if they are doing anything to respond to the vandalism. Mr.
Stendell answered that there is enough patrolling being done, but they
don't respond to this type of vandalism. Responding to Commissioner
Hall's and Commissioner Housken's question, Mr. Greenwood stated
that a mister feature would create the same issues and require the
same maintenance as the current water feature. Vice Chair Guyer
stated that if people are breaking the valve box to turn it on, it is
because it is being used; therefore, instead of removing the feature, he
would like for it to be replaced with a feature that is more economical
and easier to maintain.
Upon a motion by Vice Chair Guyer, second by Commissioner Hall, and a
7-0 vote of the Commission Board, staff was directed to research other features
that could replace the Rainbow water feature, but are more economical and
easier to maintain.
C. DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR THE UPCOMING FY
2011-12 BUDGET
With the budget process for FY 2011/12 rapidly approaching, staff
requested the Commission's suggestions for capital improvement
projects that could be included in the budget. The recommendations of
the Commission will be included in the budget process along with other
departmental requests.
Councilman Spiegel recommended continuing the item to the next
meeting in order for the Commission to have enough time to think of
some projects. Vice Chair Guyer inquired if the City is making enough
ADA upgrades and if they are based on history the City has put in
motion. Mr. Ryan Stendell stated that the City is doing enough ADA
upgrades. Commissioner Thomas asked what is the difference
between the fund titles. Mr. Greenwood responded that the Park Fund
Reserve is money that the City Council programs from the General
Fund to be used for Parks Capital Improvement Projects. The Park
Fund is money that is collected from developers when they construct a
project and is, therefore, more restricted.
On a separate note, Commissioner Thomas stated that the snowbirds
have returned and yesterday there were 15 users playing on the two
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courts at Civic Center Park. Therefore, the new Cahuilla Pickleball
Courts will be meet the demand and asked staff to consider building
some restrooms for the users. Staff stated research for the potential
installation of restrooms at Cahuilla is already in the process.
Responding to Commissioner Housken's inquiry, Mr. Stendell stated
Mr. Niemczak had installed two columns, but to his understanding the
Commission had requested the installation of additional columns
No motion; the item was continued.
D. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE SCHEDULING OF TOURNAMENTS
AT PALM DESERT FACILITIES
Mr. Jeff Ronci introduced Brenda Nutcher, Assistant Director for the
Desert Recreation District, who schedules the tournaments in the Palm
Desert parks. She stated that according to the policy, reservations for
the tournaments need to be submitted six months in advance and are
scheduled on a first -come, first -served basis. The commercial rate for
organized groups is $150 a day for the field and $30/hr for the lights.
Palm Desert residents receive a reduce rate of $15/hr. for the field and
$15/hr. for the lights, and the High School gets their fees waived. The
policy also states that full refunds can be obtained if a cancellation
notice is given 30 days in advance. Reservations can be made for
group or private use, but the groups are not allowed to charge any fees
while in the park. Commissioner Thomas asked if there were currently
enough fields to meet the demand. Ms. Nutcher stated that they could
use more soccer fields, but, for the moment, if there is any conflict with
the scheduling, the policy prevails. She also stated that tournaments
typically grow every year, so they usually book the fields a least a year
in advance. Commissioner Housken stated that her main concern is
why the Desert Recreation District keeps the fees for the lights, if they
collect the fees for the lights and the City pays for the electricity. Mr.
Stendell stated that all these concerns will be addressed in the new
contract City staff is currently negotiating.
E. FORMATION OF HIKING TRAILS SUBCOMMITTEE
At the last City Council meeting, Council suggested that staff ask the
Parks and Recreation Commission to form a subcommittee that will
address all the issues with the trails and make recommendations to the
City Council. The subcommittee could consist of two Commission
members, and two members of the hiking community or trails experts
from the BLM. Responding to Commissioner Dawson's inquiry, staff
stated that this will not be a standing committee; it will be a
subcommittee of the Parks and Recreation Commission and will meet
on an as -needed basis. Vice Chair Guyer asked if there were any
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current interests from the community that needs to be addressed by
this committee. Mr. Stendell responded that not at this point, but the
following item of discussion would be something the subcommittee will
address. Vice Chair Guyer stated that there doesn't seem to be too
many items concerning the trails that required the formation of a
subcommittee, but if there is an interest from the community, the
subcommittee should be formed.
F. CONSIDERATION OF PLACEMENT OF "HOPPY'S CREED" SIGNS
ALONG THE HOPALONG CASSIDY TRAIL
In previous years, City staff had been asked to look into placing signs
along the eight -mile trail, but due to its cost, the item has never moved
forward. Commissioner Dawson questioned if the Commission has
ever discussed and made recommendations regarding signage on
trails. After a brief discussion, the Commission clarified that trails do
fall under the Commission. On that note, Vice Chair Guyer asked how
this item went to the City Council, without coming to the Commission
first. Staff stated that Mr. John Wohlmuth received a call from a former
councilmember asking for the sign to be placed. After some research,
the item was added to the City Council Agenda. The City Council then
redirected the item to the Park and Recreation Commission, asking
them to form a subcommittee that will address these types of issues.
On that note, Chairman Dash asked for volunteers to form the
subcommittee and Vice Char Guyer and Commissioner Dawson
volunteered.
No motion; the item will be discussed by the subcommittee.
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. AQUATIC CENTER OPERATIONS UPDATE
Chairman Dash asked if a member of the Commission could
participate in the review process for proposals of the Aquatic Center
Operations. Mr. John Wohlmuth answered that the review and
selection of the proposals will be conducted by City staff professionals
that have the skills and knowledge to make a fair and technical
recommendation. He expressed his concerns with including a member
of the Commission. Mr. Greenwood added that staff will rank the
proposals independently. The highest score will be submitted to the
Commission for review and approval. Chairman Dash restated that he
would like the Commission to participate in the discussion rather than
to react to a decision. Commissioner Dawson suggested having
someone go through the proposal review process, but not have a vote
on the selection portion in order to not intrude on the decision. Mr.
Wohlmuth informed the Commission that the process, including the
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rounds of interviews, could lead to three or four full days.
Commissioner Housken understands the process and would like to
volunteer to participate, but offered the opportunity to Vice Chair Guyer
since he has been very vocal on the need of additional amenities. Vice
Chair Guyer declined the offer to participate in the process, stating that
the Commission has expressed his concerns and/or opinion and the
City has hired qualified staff go through the process; he does not
believe it is necessary to interfere. Therefore, Commissioner Housken
volunteered and the Commission concurred.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
NONE
IX. PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATES
A. FAMILY YMCA OF THE DESERT
Rob Ballew of the YMCA reported that flag football for the kids is being
held at the Soccer Field on Friday evenings; 292 kids are participating.
In addition, basketball signups for the winter time are currently being
held. The YMCA is currently serving approximately 3,230 children; 351
are from Palm Desert. All the children participate in the Why Be Fit
Program.
B. DESERT RECREATION DISTRICT
Mr. Jeff Ronci informed the Commission that they have just completed
the regional trails signs and will be presenting them to the Riverside
County Trails Committee meeting on November 17, 2010. He also
commented that Ms. Nutcher does an exceptional job in rotating the
fields, so all fields get the same usage. Mr. Ronci stated that the
Desert Rock Concert was very successful with over 7,000 people
attending the Eddie Money Concert and over 4,000 the Christopher
Cross Concert.
The first adult flag football season had more than 60 participants and
the Senior Games will be out by November 15, 2010. The dinner will
be held in Palm Desert and the Commission will select the honoree.
The Commission suggested Johnny Bench. Commissioner Housken
mentioned that staff should insure the BMX riders are included in the
skate park expansion.
Mr. Jeff Ronci presented the monthly facilities and programming
reports as follows:
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Program / Activity
Enrollment
Zumba
2
Salsaerobics
6
Bootcamp
30
Ballroom Dancing
3
Belly Dancing
10
Drawing
1
Painting in advance
3
Swing & Salsa
11
Yoga 1 da /wk
5
Yoga 2 da s/wk
4
Beginning Ballet
5
After -School Club
27
Guitar Beginning
9
Karate
12
Baseball II
3
Ping Pong
30
Tiny Tots M,W,F
17
Tiny Tots T, TH
16
Dance Play
4
Youth Tennis 4-6
2
Youth Tennis 7-9
2
Youth Tennis 10-13
1
Adult Tennis 18+
2
Membership/ Facilities
Use
Skate Park Membership
330
BMX Membership
201
Tennis
2162
Pickleball
378
Vill. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
- Chairman Dash requested that the University Park fence not be
reinstalled using a chain link. Mr. Stendell stated that chain link fences
are against City policy.
He presented the first edition of PD Style Magazine and asked staff to
pursue publishing an article regarding the City parks. Councilman
Spiegel commented the magazine cost approximately $120,000 to
publish.
Chairman Dash asked if staff could consider installing additional trees
at Freedom Park near the small dog section. He stated that during
certain times of the day, there are areas when shade is not available.
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He commended the Golf Cart Parade for involving small children and
asked staff to research a bicycle activity that will be held in Los
Angeles, California.
Commissioner Thomas informed the Commission that the Brightside
lists the senior games and asked Diane Hollinger to elaborate on the
Turf Retrofit Program. Ms. Diane Hollinger stated that the program
was sponsored by the City of Palm Desert and the Coachella Valley
Water District. The City had $110,000 in the budget and paid $2 per
square foot, up to $2,000 per applicant. It opened in February of 2010
at 8:00 a.m. and by 9:30 a.m. the funds had been exhausted. Two-
thirds of the applications have been completed with a very successful
outcome.
Commissioner Housken requested the updated action log and asked
on the status of the Commission's request to have Jay Niemczak
attend meetings.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business or discussion, and with the Commissioners'
unanimous concurrence, the meeting was adjourned at 10:25 a.m.
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