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BUILDING & SAFETY DEPARTMENT
INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
To: Rachelle Klassen, City Clerk
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From: Suzanne Cicchini, Administrative Secretary
Date: January 31, 2012
Subject: Submission of Approved Minutes for the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee Meeting held on September 27, 2011
Attached is a copy of the September 27, 2011 Minutes of the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee Meeting approved by the Committee on January 31, 2012.
Please include on the next City Council agenda.
Thank you
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
CULTURAL RESOURCES PRESERVATION COMMITTEE
Minutes
September 27, 2011
Administrative Conference Room
I. CALL TO ORDER
Committee Chair Don Graybill called the meeting of the Cultural Resources
Preservation Committee to order at 10:08 a.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Gale Broeker Ricki Brodie
Art Davis
Don Graybill
Kim Housken
Bob Pitchford
Kent Routh
Also Present:
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety
Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Elizabeth Gold, Director of Operations at the Center for Spiritual Living at
45630 Portola Avenue, wanted to know if a potential future buyer would
have restrictions if the Center opted for a Cultural Resource designation
prior to sale. A discussion commenced. The Center for Spiritual Living is
next door to Washington Charter School, located on Portola and Shadow
Mountain. Committee Chair Don Graybill mentioned that the building is
significant; it is the first site of the first church. Committee Member Bob
Pitchford believes that the Rectory is a Walter White building because it has
the characteristics. Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety
responded to Ms. Gold's concerns. Any property owner, contemplating
improvements whether it is enlarging a building or putting a new building
on a site would be required to go through the review process through City
of Palm Desert Planning, Building and possibly, Public Works Departments.
If a property were deemed historic, it would add just one more layer of
review with this Committee. Focus would be on whether the additional
improvements mimic the original architecture. It does not preclude a
property owner from enlarging the existing building. Interior alterations are
not subject to Committee review; only exterior alterations. Committee
Member Kim Housken noted that landscaping could be subject to review if
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there was a historic tree or something of that nature on the property. Mr.
Grance pointed out that the designation process is completely voluntary. It
has to be approved by the property owner. If a new property owner of a
designated property decides, there is a process to de -list the property.
When the ordinance was developed, maintenance of property owner rights
was the City Council's main objective. Committee Member Kim Housken
informed that the Mills Act has benefits that could be pursued. However,
since the Center is a church, no taxes are paid and no tax benefit would be
derived from the Mills Act. Mr. Grance pointed out that it is a benefit for a
property owner to have their property designated historical if they wanted to
preserve their property in perpetuity. Discussion continued about the site.
Ms. Gold mentioned that the Center has outgrown the current location.
Committee Chair Don Graybill recalled that the Historical Society has quite a
bit of information on the building. Committee Member Bob Pitchford
remembered that the building was previously considered as a site for City
Hall and was also the site of the Christina Sinatra Youth Center. Ms. Gold
will confer with the Board of the Center and let Mr. Grance know whether
they will move forward with a designation.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF 03/29/11.
Committee Chair Don Graybill Motioned that Minutes be approved as
presented. Committee Vice Chair Kent Routh seconded the Motion. All
present approved. Motion passed unanimously.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. DISCUSS: PALM DESERT SCHOOL TO BE PLACED ON UNOFFICIAL LIST.
Discussion commenced about the school site. The unofficial list was developed
over time and is dated April 24, 2006. Director of Building and Safety, Russell
Grance noted that the top thirteen properties were derived from that unofficial
list. Mr. Grance suggested researching the properties to determine if a
property is significant. Committee Member Kim Housken explained that some
of the properties on the official list were surveyed back in 1981. Committee
Member Art Davis asked whether there was any contact between the
Committee and property owners on the list and if there were any
mailings. Mr. Grance responded that there were roughly thirteen properties
that were considered a priority. These were the only property owners
contacted. Committee Chair Don Graybill proposed that the list be organized
into different categories to make the properties eligible. Committee Member Art
Davis suggested that each Committee Member take five to ten properties
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each, take a picture, make notations, and determine whether that property
should remain on the list. Committee Member Kim Housken clarified that they
previously did what Mr. Davis recommended. Mr. Grance explained the notes
on the unofficial list came from that Committee research. Committee Vice
Chair Kent Routh mentioned that each property was unique in design or in
some other way. Some because of a celebrity who lived there, the architect, or
longevity of the property. Mr. Routh suggested that perhaps at least ten
percent no longer exist or are no longer of interest to the Committee.
Committee Member Gale Broeker pointed out that at least three or four have
been destroyed.
Committee Chair Don Graybill spoke with people associated with the
Washington School site and is encouraged to continue pursuing this
designation. The people he spoke with wanted additional information. He
inquired whether a school site is a category. Russell Grance, Director of
Building and Safety explained that the designation did not have to be for a
building. It can be for a site, a tree, landscape. Historical significance is
necessary. Discussion commenced about the application process. Mr. Grance
and the Committee will provide any assistance needed. It is imperative that the
person signing the letter for the school has the necessary authority. Mr.
Grance is aware that the Department of the State Architect is the ultimate
authority for school sites. Due diligence must be done in obtaining permission
for this designation. Committee Member Kim Housken suggested that an
interpretive display be considered because it is a school site. Mr. Grance
concurred that a paragraph explaining that this was the site of the first school
because the original facility no longer exists. This would be in addition to the
plaque. The Committee concurred that the Washington School site should be
added to the unofficial list. Since it is on the unofficial list, no motion was
needed. Mr. Grance requested that Mr. Graybill provide the contact
information so a letter could be prepared to initiate the designation process.
Mr. Graybill requested that he hand carry the letter. Discussion continued
about the list. It will be emailed to the Committee.
B. DISCUSS: POTENTIAL BUS TOUR.
Discussion commenced about the bus tour. There is liability for the City to
consider if the public is invited. Russell Grance, Director of Building and
Safety Department suggested that pamphlets could be available that detail the
route for the public to tour properties in lieu of attending the tour. These could
be made available at the Historical Society. The 2007 bus tour information is
available on the City of Palm Desert website at www.cityofpalmdesert.org. Mr.
Grance noted that the interest generated will determine the size of bus
needed. Committee Member Kim Housken suggested February, 2012 as the
month for the tour. Time and specific date will be determined. If the tour will
be held on a day that the Historical Society is normally closed, it may be
opened for that event.
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VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE: Status of Designation Letters.
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety updated the Committee on the
status of the letters sent. One property owner's letter came back and was
marked "interested' but no further communication was received from that
property owner since. Seven letter recipients responded that they are "not
interested." Two letters are still pending and the rest have not responded at all.
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
Committee Member Gale Broeker mentioned an article in the Los Angeles times
about stolen plaques. Thieves were removing brass plaques to sell as scrap metal.
Our aluminum plaques are not as valuable as plaques made of other metals; the
risk to our plaques was determined to be low.
Committee Chair Don Graybill wanted to know what the chances might be of public
funding for a Cultural Resources Center. Director of Building and Safety, Russell
Grance noted that there was almost no chance of a publicly funded Cultural
Resources Center. A 503C Non -Profit Corporation could be developed with
private donations. In this difficult economic environment, private support might be
difficult to obtain. Mr. Graybill expressed that the Historical Society is so cramped
for space. They are trying to get another location for themselves. Mr. Grance
pointed out that the unique items on display at the Historical Society, to
commemorate the first Fire Station, might be difficult to transfer to another location.
A whole new site would be needed. There is a wide open property next to the
Historical Society. Mr. Graybill noted that it was a Dog Park. Mr. Grance
suggested that it might be an ideal location. Mr. Graybill would like City of Palm
Desert to consider the Edith Morre building on El Paseo as a potential site for a
Cultural Resources Center. The building needs a lot of work. Committee Member
Kim Housken mentioned the former Visitors Center and how appropriate it would
have been for a Cultural Resources Center to be tied in with the Visitors Center.
Committee Member Gale Broeker mentioned that there was supposed to have
been a Cultural Center located at the McCallum Theater site.
The Historical Society opens this weekend. The hours are 10:00 a.m. — 3:00 p.m.
on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday, closed on Sunday, Tuesday and
Thursday.
Committee Chair Don Graybill noticed the designation terminology is the same for
a landmark as well as a district. He thought that the wording should have been
changed to reflect owners or a percentage of owners. Committee Member Gale
Broeker noted that she objected that property owner approval was needed
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because Federal law allows for anyone to nominate any property at any time.
Russell Grance, Director of Building and Safety suggested that interest be gauged
before any work is done. A mailer sent out to property owners within a 300 foot
radius would help determine interest. Mr. Graybill would like the Palma Village
area (that was here before the City was incorporated) to be recognized in some
way. Mr. Graybill suggested that perhaps this was something for the Historical
Society to consider. Committee Vice Chair Kent Routh opined that he did not think
the area was of interest. Ms. Houken suggested that the area did not necessarily
have to be designated, but it was under the category of educating people that this
particular area was here before El Paseo.
Committee Member Kim Housken wanted to know what information we had on
Shadow Mountain Fairway Cottages. They were built in the late Fifties and Sixties.
Someone was asking about these at the Historical Society. An address was not
available. An address is needed in order to conduct more research.
A Work Shop will be scheduled for Tuesday, October 25, 2011 at 10:00 a.m. in the
Administrative Conference Room at City of Palm Desert. This replaces the regular
meeting scheduled for the same day.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Committee Chair Don Graybill adjourned the meeting at 11:43 a.m.
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Suzanne Cicchini, Recording Secretary
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