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CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMITTEEE
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ADMININSTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Robert Leo called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
Ii. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Member Eric Corey Freed Member Tommy Edwards
Member Gregory Gritters Member David Koller
Member Dean Gatons Member Ralph Raya
Member Bruce Kassler
Member David Mourhess
Member Susan Rosenberg
Member Luke Taylor
Vice Chair Cleve Langford
Chair Robert Leo
Also Present:
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development
Mark Greenwood, Director of Public Works
Martin Alvarez, Director of Economic Development
Ruth Ann Moore, Economic Development Manager
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
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IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee meeting of July 8, 2013.
Rec: Approve as presented.
Member Dean Gatons noted that the Palm Desert subcommittee and Palm
Springs did not meet with the Coachella Valley Association of Governments. He
clarified that Palm Springs hosted a meeting, and invited all cities in the
Coachella Valley.
Upon a motion by Langford, second by Mourhess, and a 9-0 vote of the Citizens'
Sustainability Committee, the Consent Calendar was approved as amended with
Members Edwards, Koller, and Raya ABSENT.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. DISCUSSION ON AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSATE
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, stated that he received an email from a Palm
Desert resident regarding condensation coming from the air conditioners. The
resident suggested that the City look into a way of using air conditioner
condensate for irrigation. Mr. Bagato stated that information was provided in the
agenda packet. He requested that the Committee receive and file the information,
and discuss a potential program in the future.
Chair Leo requested to add this item to the next agenda.
VI1. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
B. UPDATE ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS
1. Draft Letters and Ordinance
Member Eric Freed gave a brief background on single-use plastic bags. He
stated that the Palm Desert plastic bag subcommittee tact is to join forces
with the City of Palm Springs, and try to pass the ordinance valley-wide. The
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subcommittee's approach is writing a letter to Mayor Harnik from the
subcommittee asking to support the ordinance to regulate single-use plastic
bags valley-wide. In addition, provide the Mayor with a draft letter that she
would send out to the other cities asking them to support the ordinance.
Mr. Bagato stated that staff was ready to take the draft ordinance and letters
to the City Council; however, staff thought that the Committee would want to
see the letters beforehand. If the Committee endorses the letters, staff will
write a staff report to the City Council to authorize the Mayor's signature to
send out the letter with the draft ordinance to Coachella Valley cities.
Member Bruce Kassler commented that he had reviewed the letter and had a
few comments, which Member Freed has incorporated. He said the letter
looks good.
Member Gatons moved, by Minute Motion, to present the draft letters and
ordinance to the City Council. Motion was seconded by Member Freed and carried by a
9-0 vote with Members Edwards, Koller, and Raya ABSENT.
2. Proposed Citywide Education Program
Chair Leo stated that he feels they could initiate an education program before
the ordinance is passed. He asked the Committee if they had a chance to
review the program information provided in the agenda packet.
Member Bruce Kassler commented that he spent time in Los Angeles and
San Luis Obispo counties prior to and after their ordinances went into effect.
He said that the education he saw was a lot of signage. There was signage in
parking lots and in the stores along with advance notifications, and reminders
of the change. He said that once the ordinance was passed, there was a time
period allotted and signage was increased even more. He said that from the
small group of people he talked to there were no negative comments and
people functioned well with the change.
Member Susan Rosenberg suggested educating the store manager to train
their clerks to ask people if they need a bag.
Member Gatons commented that when the subcommittee met with Palm
Springs, they discussed that it is an ordinance versus a ban. He said when
the word "ban" is used; it has a negative connotation to it. He mentioned that
the City of Palm Springs is running a commercial on single-use plastic bags.
Chair Leo suggested that staff get a copy of the commercial so they can view
at the next meeting.
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Mr. Bagato reported that funds for the reusable bag purchase program would
come from the recycle program account. He briefly went over the program.
Martin Alvarez, Director of Economic Development, commented that in the
past the City has used the BrightSide to reach out to the community, which all
residents and business owners receive in the mail. He also mentioned that
there is a cable channel that airs City Council meetings that can be used, if
funds are available.
Member Kassler asked how many newsletters are mailed out and how often.
Mr. Alvarez responded that the newsletters are mailed out every other month
to every physical address in Palm Desert.
Member Kassler inquired if the Citizens' Sustainability Committee will have an
opportunity to submit information in the BrightSide once the Mayor decides to
mail the letter to other cities asking for their support.
Mr. Alvarez replied that the Committee through staff could propose a request
to the City Manager.
Member Kassler asked if the City receives feedback from the BrightSide.
Ms. Ruth Ann Moore, Economic Development Manager, responded that the
City has received responses from different articles, such as when the Energy
Program was published.
Member Kassler asked if the City has asked residents for comments, and if
there is something on the City's website for them to respond.
Ms. Moore said that the City does have a Facebook page, and there is also
an electronic newsletter.
Mr. Bagato asked Member Kassler if he was referring to a survey format.
Member Kassler responded that it is an idea to receive feedback on how
residents feel about single-use plastic bags.
Member Freed commented that they should only ask for feedback if they are
going to do something with it. Otherwise, the City would be asking for trouble.
Member Kassler clarified sending something out after the Mayor agrees on
signing the letter.
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Vice Chair Cleve Langford asked why Palm Desert wouid not want to
standout in a positive way.
Ms. Aylaian responded that Palm Desert is walking the line or doing a
balancing act between environmental and sustainability issues that have been
a concern for a long time. She said that there is a spoken and unspoken
concern from many business merchants that if Palm Desert alone prohibits
the use or dispensing of single-use plastic bags, people will go to neighboring
cities. She stated that elected officials are trying to be responsive to both
groups, and the way to that is to have the ban valley-wide.
Member Freed commented that when it comes time and the City wants to
make stickers or magnets, he can assist with the artwork.
Member Rosenberg moved, by Minute Motion, to approve the proposed
Citywide education program regarding single-use plastic bags. Motion was seconded by
Member Kassler and carried by a 9-0 vote with Members Edwards, Koller, and Raya
ABSENT.
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Economic Development Director
1. Desert Cities Energy Partnership Update
Mr. Alvarez gave a brief update on the Desert Cities Energy Partnership, and
presented a PowerPoint presentation. He introduced Mr. Jacob Alvarez,
representative from the Coachella Valley Association of Governments (CVAG)
and liaison for the Desert Cities Energy Partnership.
Member Freed noted that 1/9 of $4.9 million is approximately $550,000. He
asked why Palm Desert only received $160,000.
Mr. M. Alvarez responded that Palm Desert received several million dollars
through the Set to Save program.
Mr. J. Alvarez added that some of the work involved has been completed by
the first portion of the project.
Mr. M. Alvarez continued with the PowerPoint presentation.
Member Freed asked what the incentive for someone to do a Voluntary Code
is.
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Mr. M. Alvarez replied that there are no monetary incentives. He noted that it
does incorporate some elements of LEED, Green Building, and other
sustainability components.
Mr. J. Alvarez said that for a program they could point to the rebates offered
from Southern California Edison, Imperial Irrigation District, or Coachella
Valley Water District. Additionally, educate the local contractors and
developers. He said that essentially they would have to produce net zero
homes by 2020, and net zero for commercial by 2030.
Member Freed inquired if there is anything the Committee could do to
encourage or provide an incentive for the Voluntary Code, i.e. an expedited
permit.
Mr. M. Alvarez responded that they have had discussions on that issue;
however, they have not come to a consensus.
Member Freed mentioned that in San Francisco they did a priority permit
program for anyone that agreed to do LEED gold. However, they ended up
having 60 building projects jump to the front. He said Palm Desert is a smaller
city, and there should be no problem providing an expedited permit program.
Mr. Bagato asked Member Freed what is considered an expedited timeframe.
He said that in Palm Desert people are surprised how fast the City does things
on a regular basis. He noted that if a plan for a new home is submitted, there
is a three-week turnaround.
Member Freed recommended a recognition program. He stated that at this
time, he does not think anyone would want to do the Voluntary Code.
Chair Leo requested that staff report back to the Committee for the next
meeting on an incentive program.
Mr. M. Alvarez continued with his presentation.
Member Freed asked if Palm Desert is benchmarking municipal buildings for
energy use.
Mr. M. Alvarez replied that they currently do not have benchmarking or energy
tracking for municipal buildings; however, they are looking at utility managing
programs for tracking utility usage.
Member Freed asked how many City-owned buildings there are.
Mr. M. Alvarez responded approximately 10 buildings.
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Member Freed asked if the City could get energy stats for free. He said they
have to grant Southern California Edison permission to release the
information. If they start today, they will have a year's worth of information by
next August.
Mr. J. Alvarez responded that the utility manager program that Mr. M. Alvarez
mentioned in his presentation would provide information.
Mr. M. Alvarez handed out information on Palm Desert's Greenhouse Gas
Inventory study done in 2008. He briefly went over the study.
Ms. Kim Housken, Palm Desert resident, mentioned that the City Council is
considering drive-through restaurants Citywide, and asked how it would affect
greenhouse gases.
Mr. M. Alvarez responded that he does not know what the impact would be of
idling vehicles. He mentioned that the City Council has voted to postpone
discussion on drive-through restaurants, and to have the Envision Palm Desert
Committee take a look at this item.
Ms. Aylaian said drive-through restaurants would be of interest to the Citizens'
Sustainability Committee. She said if anyone is aware of any research or
studies on drive-through restaurants and their impacts on sustainability issues,
to please let staff know.
Member Kassler commented that an analysis of drive-throughs is very
complicated. If there is a study, it would be very complex for it to be accurate.
Member Gregory Gritters mentioned that the Palm Desert Greenhouse Gas
Inventory study was done in 2008. He asked if the black line showing the
projection is still valid.
Member Freed stated that from his experience, the projection is based on
population growth per capita. The transportation issue, he said that the higher
Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards are going online;
however, that only fixes new cars and it will take approximately 21 years to
flush out the old cars so the standards would not be felt for a while. As far as
the electricity mix, Member Freed stated that it is based on Southern California
Edison's Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS).
Member Gritters asked how Palm Desert is going to get to the dashed blue
line (Target Reduction) as indicated in the study.
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Mr. M. Alvarez mentioned that there has been quite of bit of movement on the
electricity side. Since 2007, the City implemented the Set to Save program
and offered solar panel loans.
B. Strategic Plan: Energy and Sustainability Focus Group
No report.
C. Committee Members Comments
Member Luke Taylor commented that he is looking forward to discuss air
conditioner condensate at the next meeting.
Ms. Aylaian said that staff may contact Member Taylor in advance to discuss a
concept for the air condition condensate.
Member Kassler commented that he is happy the issue with single-use plastic
bags is moving forward with the letters to the Mayor.
Member Gatons thanked staff for providing a meeting schedule.
Member Freed asked for an update on Ms. Nale's replacement.
Ms. Aylaian responded that Ms. Nale's replacement will start Monday,
September 16. She stated that the person they hired has been a planner for
the City of La Quinta for seven years. His name is Eric Ceja. She noted that
Mr. Ceja does not have a strong background in sustainability so Mr. Bagato
will remain the liaison for the Citizens' Sustainability Committee.
Chair Leo thanked the Committee for moving the single-use plastic bag issue
forward.
Mr. Bagato stated that the Planning Commission recommended approval of
the reduced parking standards, and will go to the City Council at the end of
September. He mentioned there will be an Energy Summit on October 3-4,
2013, in Palm Springs. He will email the information to the Committee.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Member Gatons, second by Member Taylor, and a 9-0 vote
of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee, Chair Leo adjourned the meeting at 2:59
p.m. with Edwards, Koller, and Raya ABESENT.
Monica O'Reilly, Record n Secretary
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