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• • MONDAY, JULY 8, 2013 — 2:00 P.M.
ADMININSTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Robert Leo called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Member Tommy Edwards at 2:05 p.m. Member Gregory Gritters
Member Eric Freed Member Ralph Raya
Member Dean Gatons
Member Bruce Kassler
Member David Koller
Member David Mourhess
Member Susan Rosenberg
Member Luke Taylor
Vice Chair Cleve Langford
Chair Robert Leo
Also Present:
Susan Marie Weber, Councilmember
John Wohlmuth, City Manager
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development at 2:20 p.m.
Martin Alvarez, Director of Economic Development
Ruth Ann Moore, Economic Development Manager
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secretary
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IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee meeting of March 20,
2013.
Rec: Approve as presented.
Staff noted that Member Gritters had a change to his comment on page 7 last
paragraph.
Upon a motion by Mourhess, second by Gatons, and a 9-0 vote of the Citizens'
Sustainability Committee, the Consent Calendar was approved as amended with
Members Edwards, Gritters, and Raya ABSENT.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VII1. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS
Member Eric Freed stated that Ms. Kate Castle from the City of Palm Springs
drafted a letter. He said that potentially the tact they are taking is that she wants
to present a unified front with the Palm Desert and Palm Springs Sustainability
Committee to launch a valley-wide initiative. The feedback from the other cities is
that it is a great idea; however, they do not want to be the first to do it. He said
they are hoping to find a way around that issue by doing it all at once. Ms. Castle
drafted a letter that essentially says "there are 72 municipalities in California that
have done it, including Los Angeles. There is no reason why we can't do it, it is
costing the city money; let's do it all together." He stated that Ms. Castle would
like Palm Desert to back her up. Member Freed communicated that they have a
draft letter, a draft policy, and templates. He asked what they need to do now.
Member David Koller inquired if the Coachella Valley Association of
Governments (CVAG) would be better suited to move the issue forward.
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Member Freed responded that CVAG would be perfect to move it forward;
however, they have refused because they have other priorities that take
precedence.
Member Koller suggested writing a letter to CVAG.
Chair Leo commented that the Palm Desert Sustainability Committee will have to
request that the Palm Desert City Council write a letter to CVAG. He asked the
City Manager if that was correct.
Mr. John Wohlmuth, City Manager, responded that the City Council has asked
CVAG to look into the matter, and to consider bringing single-use plastic bags
forward. He stated he brought it up at the City Manager's meeting, and most of
the city managers are not interested in addressing the issue of plastic bags. He
noted that Indio expressed interest, but that was about it. He feels that the issue
is likely to be tabled forever. The City Council feels the same unless there is a
regional approach.
Member Dean Gatons commented that in May 2013, Palm Springs hosted a
meeting, and they invited all of the Coachella Valley cities. He noted that the
Palm Desert subcommittee attended the meeting. He said that their concern is
they are not getting support. He mentioned that he sat in the Palm Desert
Walmart parking lot and he literally saw Home Depot bags stuck in trees, which
Home Depot is in Rancho Mirage located across the street. Member Gatons
stated that Palm Desert is serious about the issue, and displayed his daughter's
art project that was made of single-use plastic bags.
Chair Leo asked the City Manager if the ban of single-use plastic bags will go
anywhere.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that the City Council is interested in a regional
approach. He noted that CVAG is made up of nine cities, and unless you get half
of them wanting something it is likely that it is not going to occur.
Chair Leo asked if the Committee has the liberty to contact the other cities.
Mr. Wohlmuth replied that they could talk to the elected officials from the other
cities. He mentioned that Ms. Nale gave a couple of presentations to the Solid
Waste Task Force and Energy Environment. Unfortunately it did not have
momentum.
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, noted that items on the agenda are updates,
and there will not always be an action recourse. He also noted that they are
working on updating the Strategic Plan, and there is a focus group on
sustainability that will take about 10 months to adopt.
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Chair Leo asked if anyone from the Sustainability Committee is in the focus
group.
Mr. Bagato replied that Member Mourhess is in the focus group.
Member Freed inquired if CVAG is the only path to move this issue forward.
Mr. Wohlmuth reaffirmed that the City Council wants a regional approach, and
that it does not have to go through CVAG.
Member Freed asked if it will be the same legislation or can there be subtle
differences between all the cities.
Mr. Wohlmuth said that historically someone would draft a model ordinance, and
that it would be slightly or greatly modified by each city.
Member Freed stated that they have a draft model ordinance that has not been
seen by any City Council in the Coachella Valley. He stated that if they could get
three to four cities to participate, they could get the other cities to participate.
Member Tommy Edwards asked Mr. Wohlmuth if they have reached out to city
councils through CVAG, and city managers to look at a regional approach.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that when the City Council asks staff to do something,
that is the quickest way. He said that the City Manager and staff receive direction
in a number of different ways: from the council, the community, input at council
meetings, and regionally through CVAG.
Member Freed inquired if he as a citizen or as a unified body are restricted from
writing an editorial for The Desert Sun. Would it be appropriate?
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that the Sustainability Committee is an advisory
committee to the City Council. As a committee, Mr. Wohlmuth advised Member
Freed to first ask the City Council. As an individual, he could write the editorial as
a committee member, and noted that it could upset the Council.
Member Gatons agreed with Member Freed. They need a valley-wide initiative to
move forward; however, he does not know how they can get there.
Member Edwards commented it might be worth taking it back to the City Council
for direction.
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Chair Leo asked if it would be possible to do an informal survey of
establishments that on their own are trying to reduce the number of plastic bags,
and raising the level of reusable bags instead of mandating plastic bags.
Ms. Aylaian commented that she believes stores are required by law to have a
place to recycle plastic bags, and they are also required to provide reusable bags
for purchase.
Member Freed reaffirmed that there is a law for collection of plastic bags. He
mentioned that he has a letter of support from the California Grocers Association.
Member Bruce Kassler asked if it is possible to get the City Council to agree to
the ban of plastic bags based on the ordinance that has been written, but will not
enact the ordinance until there is a minimum of four other cities within the
Coachella Valley.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that it is not likely, and explained the ordinance
process. He suggested to Chair Leo to send a report to the City Council of what
has been done along with the model ordinance and letters of support, He said to
ask the Council to consider authorizing the Mayor to send a letter to the mayors
of the other cities with the ordinance attached, and encourage them to consider
this issue as a city or through CVAG.
Member Freed inquired who they send the request to.
Chair Leo directed Member Freed and Gatons meet with Mr. Bagato to prepare
the letter and staff report.
Member Gatons asked who in the City will enforce or monitor the ordinance.
Mr. Wohlmuth replied that the Code Enforcement Department woutd respond to a
complaint.
B. UPDATE ON DE-ASPHALTIFICATION
Mr. Bagato reported that staff is moving forward with the zoning ordinance
modification. He noted that they looked at parking counts, and they will be
reducing the parking requirement.
Member Freed mentioned that he has information on solar reflective index (SRI)
material, and will be happy to present the information to staff when appropriate.
Mr. Bagato stated that the zoning ordinance will go to the Planning Commission
and the City Council in August.
Member Freed asked if the counts are minimums and not maximums.
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Mr. Bagato replied that the counts are minimums.
Member Freed asked if counts vary on use.
Mr. Bagato replied yes.
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Economic Development Director
1. Desert Cities Energy Partnership Update
Mr. Martin Alvarez reported that the energy partnership the City of Palm
Desert has with CVAG is moving forward with a couple of projects. At this
time, the City is completing the renovation of seven irrigation pumps at Desert
Willow. He noted that the City is looking at receiving a $12,000 rebate from
Southern California Edison for the irrigation pumps. The second item is the
City was awarded $160,000 in grant money. The grant will assist in the
following: 1) revising the City's greenhouse gas inventory; 2) allow the City to
look at a utility manager (computer software); 3) allow the City to develop a
policy for commissioning and retro-commissioning municipal facilities; and 4)
the possibility of adopting a green building policy for commercial and
residential developments. He stated that for CVAG's regional Property
Assessed Clean Energy (PACE) program, CVAG selected a consultant that
would provide a turnkey regional approach that cities could opt into to have
their PACE program administered. Ygrene is the consuttant selected, and they
have been visiting the cities to seek the city's approval to join the district. He
noted that in May of this year, Palm Desert opted to join the CVAG's PACE
program. Mr. Alvarez noted that the Palm Desert's Energy Independence
program is still active.
Member Freed asked if the Ygrene program is the City's program.
Mr. Alvarez clarified that the City's PACE program still exists, and the Ygrene
program has not launched.
Member Freed asked what the advantage is of Ygrene administering the
program instead of the City.
Mr. Alvarez replied that there are administrative costs that the City incurs, and
City funds are also being used for the loans. With a third party, he said that
there are no administrative costs for the City and no additional risks. He stated
that having a regional approach you have one voice, one message, and one
process. He said that Ygrene will launch in November or December.
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B. Committee Members
Member Freed commented that the city of Lancaster proposed to require solar on
every new project, commercial and residential. He mentioned that the city of
Santa Monica is also putting forth their version of it.
Member Gatons mentioned that The Desert Sun throws My Desert in driveways,
and half the people are not home. He inquired if they are allowed to do that, and
do they have the right to throw My Desert into driveways.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that he sent a letter to The Desert Sun concerning that
issue about a year ago. He said that per the City's ordinance, if the paper is not
picked up within 24 hours, The Desert Sun has to return to pick the papers up.
Member Gatons commented that people are not recycling when it is so easy.
Mr. Wohlmuth noted that the City is at 72 percent recycling.
Vice Chair Cleve Langford commented that the Sustainability Committee has
been discussing plastic bags for a long time, and he hopes they receive direction
soon.
Member David Mourhess agreed with Member Langford.
Member Susan Rosenberg commented that she just got back from Hawaii, and
that Hawaii has banned plastic bags. She said she did not see plastic bags
floating around, and people seemed to deal with it just fine.
Chair Leo asked if the Sustainability Committee can get updated reports from the
Strategic Plan focus group.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that they are in the beginning stages of the Strategic
Plan so there are no goals yet from the focus groups.
Ms. Aylaian also commented that staff may be able to add a regular informational
agenda item on the Sustainability Committee agenda.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a motion by Gatons, second by Langford, and a 10-0 vote of the Citizens'
Sustainabifity Committee, Chair Leo adjourned the meeting at 2:42 p.m.
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Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secreta
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