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• • MONDAY, MAY 12, 2014 — 2:00 P.M.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Robert Leo called the meeting to order at 2:02 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Member Tom Edwards at 2:08 p.m. Member David Koller
Member Eric Corey Freed at 2:08 p.m. Member David Mourhess
Member Dean Gatons Member Ralph Raya
Member Gregory Gritters at 2:23 p.m.
Member Dennis Guinaw CITYCOUNCILACT'ION
Member Bruce Kassler APPROVED nFNiED
Member Courtney Lingle RECEIVED OTHER �
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Van Tanner, Council Member v�tt�FiED 13Y: rn
Susan Marie Weber, Council Member at 2��Ot�►.t�nl.on �'i1e with City C�e�•k's (�ffice
John Wohlmuth, City Manager
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development at 2:07 p.m.
Mark Greenwood, Director of Public Works
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Ruth Ann Moore, Economic Development Manager
Lisa Ream, Recycling Technician
Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secretary
Michelle Dan, Youth Committee Member
Jessica Kozlak, Youth Committee Member
Cassidy Quilling, Youth Committee Member
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III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Ms. Cassidy Quilling, Youth Committee member, communicated that she will be
attending Cal Poly in the fall. She said that two other Youth Committee members
will attend the Citizens' Sustainability meetings.
Ms. Michelle Dan and Ms. Jessica Kozlak, Youth Committee members,
introduced themselves to the Sustainability Committee.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee meeting of February 10,
2014.
Rec: Approve as presented.
At the beginning of the meeting there was not a quorum to approve the minutes;
therefore, Chair Leo moved to New Business.
At 2:55 p.m., Chair Leo returned to the Consent Calendar for approval of the
minutes.
Upon a motion by Member Gatons, second by Member Taylor, and a 8-0-3-2
vote of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee (AYES: Edwards, Freed, Gatons, Gritters,
Kassler, Leo, Rosenberg, and Taylor; NOES: None; ABSENT: Koller, Mourhess, and
Raya; ABSTAIN: Guinaw and Lingle), the Consent Calendar was approved as
presented.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. SELECTION of Chairperson and Vice Chairperson
Member Guinaw moved, by Minute Motion, to nominate Chair Leo for another
year as Chairperson; and Member Rosenberg volunteered to serve as Vice
Chairperson. Motion was seconded by Member Gatons and carried by a 9-0-4 vote
(AYES: Edwards, Freed, Gatons, Guinaw, Kassler, Leo, Lingle, Rosenberg, and Taylor;
NOES: None; ABSENT: Gritters, Koller, Mourhess, and Raya)
B. WATER CONSERVATION (Tony Bagato, Principal Planner)
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, stated that he emailed the City's water
efficient and landscape ordinances to the Sustainability Committee. He said that
he does not want to change the water efficient ordinance. However, he is looking
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at changing the landscape ordinance for commercial, industrial, and residential.
He asked the Sustainability Committee if they had any comments.
Member Bruce Kassler commented that the ordinances currently in place are
good; however, there does not seem to be any policing once the landscape and
irrigation is constructed according to the approved landscape plans. For
example, a gardener will turn on the irrigation controller for an hour a day, four
times a day instead of five or ten minutes a day, two times a day. He said he
understands that the City is not able to check every water meter, but can there
be a program where there is some policing being done.
Member Luke Taylor said that the Coachella Valley Water District (CVWD) is
policing water use with the tier rate structure. He mentioned that he does
inspections for the County of Riverside. He explained that after landscape is
completed on county projects, they hold a bond for a year. After a year, he
performs another inspection to make sure everything is working properly, and
check that the plant material was not replaced with high water use plant material.
Ms. Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development, asked Member Taylor if
bonds are held on private or public projects.
Member Taylor responded that bonds are held for public projects.
Member Eric Corey Freed mentioned that the City of Paso Robles created a
water offset program during a water state of emergency. He explained that a
certain amount of water is allocated to the customer. If the customer used less
than the allocated amount, they could give the offset amount to other people. If
the customer used more than the allocated amount, they had to pay for the
water.
Mr. Bagato stated that CVWD oversees water, and it would be CVWD's
responsibility to declare a water state of emergency.
Member Freed asked how much power the City has since there is a water
d istrict.
Mr. John Wohlmuth, City Manager, responded that the City of Palm Desert
historically has designed public areas with drought tolerant landscape. He noted
that this was to done to demonstrate that drought tolerant landscape can look
good and be a theme in the City. He agreed with Member Taylor that CVWD's
tier rate structure is the best way to enforce water conservation. He mentioned
that CVWD has an offer for residents to have irrigation clocks replaced so that
they are programmed by month. Beginning July 1, the City is partnering with
CVWD on a turf buyback program. The City is also purchasing flags for all City
inspectors to carry in their vehicles. He explained that if an inspector sees a
broken irrigation head, it will be flagged. The City and CVWD's contact
information will be on the flag. Mr. Wohlmuth stated that it makes sense to tackle
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irrigation issues before strengthening home issues (faucets, showerheads, and
toilets).
Member Freed asked if the City could influence CVWD.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that the City works with CVWD. They are currently
working together on the turf buyback program and flag system. He stated that he
would be reluctant to tell the CVWD board of directors and general manager
what they need to do in Palm Desert. CVWD is in the water business; the City is
not.
Member Freed mentioned that the City of Palm Springs has offered to set aside
funds to incentivize waterless gray water systems for existing homeowners. He
asked if the City of Palm Desert could do something similar.
Mr. Wohlmuth responded that the City has put in $100,000 into the turf buyback
program. He noted that the City has gone through next year's budget process,
and additional funds have not been set aside for sustainability purposes.
However, the City Council could consider using money from reserves.
Councilmember Van Tanner asked Member Freed to explain a waterless system.
Member Freed explained that a waterless urinal does not flush, and used for
urination only. He also explained that with a gray water system you can save
water from one sink, and use that water to flush the toilet. He commented that
the Sustainability Committee is not short on ideas; however, he would like to
know what is possible.
Mr. Bagato stated that many items being discussed are educational. He stated
that he would like to form a couple of groups to work on the education for water
conservation and single-use plastic bags.
Chair Leo asked for volunteers to assist Mr. Bagato on the education program for
water conservation.
Councilman Tanner and Members Freed, Kassler, and Taylor volunteered to
work with Mr. Bagato on the water conservation education program.
Member Tommy Edwards suggested working with someone from CVWD.
Mr. Bagato mentioned that Member David Koller works for CVWD. He also
mentioned that Ygrene has been contracted by the Coachella Valley Association
of Governments (CVAG), and they will cover water infrastructure. He noted that
the City's Code Department will be working with CVWD on enforcing nuisance
water.
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VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE ON SINGLE-USE PLASTIC BAGS (Tony Bagato, Principal Planner)
Mr. Tony Bagato, Principal Planner, reported that the second reading of the
ordinance was approved with a $.10 charge for all paper bags. He mentioned
that the retailers on EI Paseo are concerned with the $.10 charge for paper bags
since they already provide paper bags for free. He stated that he would like to
form another group of inembers of the Sustainability Committee to work with the
retailers and do more research.
Member Freed commented that the $.10 charge did not come from the
Sustainability Committee; it came from the grocery stores. He stated that he
rather not see a $.10 charge. It makes sense to have a charge for the grocery
stores, but not the retailers.
The Committee agreed with Member Freed. Chair Leo directed staff to move
forward with what the City Council prefers.
Mr. Bagato stated that he will work directly with the retailers group.
Councilman Tanner asked what Palm Springs is doing with the $.10 charge.
Member Freed responded that they are charging $.10 across the board;
however, they do not have an EI Paseo.
At the conclusion of discussions on the $.10 charge, Mr. Bagato asked for
volunteers to assist with the single-use plastic bag education program.
Chair Leo and Members Guinaw and Lingle volunteered.
Member Gatons inquired about the thickness of bags.
Mr. Bagato responded that in accordance with the ordinance drafted by CVAG; a
reusable bag is considered either cloth, woven, or a plastic bag that is at least
2.25 mil thick.
Member Gatons asked if the retailers will change the thickness of the bags so
customers can get the bag.
Mr. Bagato responded that he hopes in a year, when the ordinance goes into
effect, the retailers will all have uniform bags so he does not have to worry about
enforcing the thickness of bags.
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Mr. David Fletcher, Chartwell Properties, Palm Desert, California 92260,
mentioned that he received a call from the president of the downtown retail
district in Palm Springs. After reading the newspaper, he realized that the
ordinance passed in Palm Springs without input from the retailers. Mr. Fletcher
said that the retailers may now go back to the Palm Springs City Council
because they are not onboard with that decision.
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Committee Members Comments
Member Taylor commented that he is looking fonivard to working on the water
conservation program.
Member Rosenberg commented that she would like to see something in the
BrightSide reminding the citizens to take a reusable bag to the store. She would
also like the store owners and employees to get educated. The clerks
automatically want to put items in a plastic bag.
Member Lingle said that she has found single-use plastic bags very interesting
and educational.
Member Gritters apologized for being late. He stated that he also is interested in
water conservation. He is also happy to hear that the City is budgeting funds for
the turf buyback program.
Member Gatons circulated a copy of The Pinecone Press Waste and Recycling
Newsletter. He commented that the newsletter comes with their quarterly Burrtec
statement. He noted that the newsletter is sponsored by the County of San
Bernardino and Mountain Disposal. Member Gatons stated that he would like to
see something similar with the Burrtec statement in Palm Desert.
Ms. Lisa Ream, Recycling Technician, responded that she could look at the
franchise agreement regarding inserts.
Member Freed commented that Chair Leo gave a rousing speech at the City
Council meeting regarding single-use plastic bags.
Member Edwards commented that he likes seeing the progress on plastic bags,
and he is interested to see where they go with water conservation.
With three additional Sustainability Committee members, Chair Leo returned to
the Consent Calendar to approve the minutes (see Consent Calendar).
Councilmember Tanner noted that the City is changing turf to desert tolerant
landscaping at Desert Willow.
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Mr. Wohlmuth added that they are looking at reducing turf, and reducing some of
the sand traps on both courses at Desert Willow.
Ms. Ream mentioned that Coca-Cola has a LEED certified building in Coachella,
and they are having a tour on May 15 at 10:00 a.m. She said they have five
spaces available. Please contact her if interested in going on the tour.
Member Gatons noted that the Arrowhead building off the Interstate 10 is also a
LEED certified building.
Member Gritters commented that the 30 acres retrofit at Desert Willow could
potentially save over $100,000 a year in water.
It was announced that August 11 is the next Citizens' Sustainability Committee
meeting.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a unanimous vote of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee, Chair Leo
adjourned the meeting at 3:02 p.m. (AYES: Edwards, Freed, Gatons, Gritters, Guinaw,
Kassler, Leo, Lingle, Rosenberg, and Taylor; NOES: None; ABSENT: Koller, Mourhess,
and Raya).
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