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PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEMORANDUM
RACHELLE KLASSEN, CITY CLERK
MARIA HUNT, SECRETARY TO ACM REDEVELOPMENT
DECEMBER 16, 2008
SUBMISSION OF MINUTES FOR THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY
COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4
Attached is a copy of the approved Minutes from the October 20, 2008, meeting of the
Project Area No. 4 Committee.
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PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR
PROJECT AREA NO.4
MINUTES
October 20, 2008
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Fred Benford called a regular meeting to order on Monday,
October 20, 2008, at 3:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Charles Ash
Fred Benford
Jane Daugherty
Robert Duncan
Roberta Grubb
Douglas Luhring
Susan McMillen
Also Present:
Mike Abee, Palm Desert Country Club
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Planning
Randy Case, Palm Desert Country Club
Mark Diercks, P.E., Transportation Engineer
Phyllis Harkins, Palm Desert Country Club Association
Maria Hunt, Recording Secretary
Dick Kelly, Councilmember
Justin McCarthy, ACM Redevelopment
Hart Ponder, Code Compliance Manager
Arla Scott, Senior Financial Analyst
Lt. Andrew Shouse, Palm Desert Police Department
Dave Simmons, Palm Desert Country Club
Bob Spiegel, Councilmember
Dave Yrigoyen, Director of Redevelopment/Housing
CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4
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III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Benford announced that Beth Longman would no longer be the
Committee's secretary because she had received a promotion and moved
to the Public Works Department.
Member Ash wanted to know about the painting of signs and the things in
the middle of the street at Palm Desert Country Club. Mark Diercks
replied that he believed they were survey station points for the
undergrounding.
Lt. Andrew Shouse introduced himself as the new Assistant Chief of
Police with the Palm Desert Police Department, and asked Committee
members to contact him with any issues or concerns.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE
FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4 MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 15, 2008.
With Committee concurrence, the Minutes of the meeting of
September 15, 2008, were unanimously approved.
V.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
VI.
NEW BUSINESS
None
VII.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII.
OLD BUSINESS
None
IX.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
A. UPDATE ON CALIFORNIA VILLAS APARTMENTS
Martin Alvarez requested that items A and B be discussed together,
Committee members agreed. Catherine Walker would be walking the
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Committee through the steps on what we have been doing at the
Country Village site.
Mr. Alvarez presented site plans and indicated he would be
addressing the five acres that the Agency owns, located off
Washington Street, Avenue of the States, and the Palm Desert
Country Club to the west. The property is approximately five acres,
which includes Casey's Restaurant and a 66-unit apartment complex
known as Country Village. The Agency also owns approximately 2.5
acres located to the south which are vacant. All residents have been
relocated. Currently out to bid for the deconstruction of the Country
Village units; bids will be opened on October 24, 2008. The goal for
this deconstruction project is to start earning points for LEED
certification for the future project. The first step will be to properly
recycle, reuse, and divert 75% of all the materials from the landfills.
Staff has been in discussions and negotiations with the owner and
operator of Casey's Restaurant to develop a plan that will separate
Casey's Restaurant as a self -supported parcel, and negotiate the sale
of that parcel to Casey's. We have also been working with them to
come up with a plan to rehabilitate the property. Staff has been
working with Interactive Design to develop a concept design that will
bring the onsite and offsite improvements, parking, landscaping, and
some of the other handicap acceptability issues up to today's
standards.
With regard to the fagade, staff is trying to keep the restaurant's
existing character. The plan is to clean up the fagade, apply some
paint, new fascias, and screen the existing mechanical equipment
located on the roof. The parking will be reconfigured to maximize the
amount of parking spaces available. This plan continues through its
review process with the various departments. Staff hopes to have a
finalized concept plan within the next month or so. Adjacent to
Casey's, approximately three quarters of an acre has been dedicated
for a future fire station. Once the Country Village Apartments have
been deconstructed, this pad will remain vacant until the fire station is
developed. The remainder of the parcel will consist of approximately
71 affordable senior housing units.
Staff wanted to give the Committee an idea of what would be included
in the proposed master plan for this property. We are also looking at
additional improvements along the entrance to the existing Palm
Desert Country Club, such as monument signage, and some points of
interest at the corner to try to draw this project into the adjacent
community. In addition to those types of improvements and the ones
proposed on this site, staff is looking to reconfigure some of the
medians to address the new regulation requirements for these
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properties. Staff is also looking at the general circulation of the "Y" at
the corner of Avenue of the States and California. This is just a
concept that staff will continue to investigate, determine what works
best for -the community, and see how it will tie into the master plan for
this project.
Member Ash asked if the City was going to handle the triangular
section which now consists of rocks and weeds. Mr. Alvarez
responded that the intent is to come up with a better circulation
pattern and to provide improvements in the median, such as new
landscaping, and a new art piece to draw attention to that location.
Mr. Case requested that they be contacted when staff develops more
detailed plans of the widening and improvements to Avenue of the
States, the monument signage, and triangular piece, so that they can
participate in the discussions and provide input. It is important that
they be involved because it is the gateway to both the Palm Desert
Country Club and the HOA facility.
Ms. Walker stated that the Country Village senior apartment plan is in
the schematic design phase. The plan has been presented to the Ad
Hoc Subcommittee for Housing, the Architectural Review
Commission, and the Development Services Project Committee.
Interactive Design has come up with this design and a plan that has
been addressed threefold. The view from Avenue of the States would
be a series of single -story units with two-story in the back and parking
underneath. There will be a community building with a manager unit
above. Another section would consist of one-story units, which will be
a mix of studios, one bedroom, and one bedroom plus den.
Circulation, as currently proposed for the property, will be one-way
coming in and going out on Avenue of the States. Access from
Dudley is currently conceptually proposed and would go through that
one-way traffic flow.
Interactive Design has developed a conceptual plan that adapts the
traditional California bungalow style, such as that in Santa Monica and
Pasadena in the 1920's and 1930's. A total of 71 units are proposed.
The plan has been presented to the Architectural Review Commission
with positive results, and also to the Ad Hoc Subcommittee for
Housing.
Member Daugherty asked what had been done, or what staff plans to
do about the traffic pattern throughout the Palm Desert Country Club.
Ms. Walker explained that they are looking at the site as a whole;
Casey's, potential fire station, Country Village, and the land that the
Agency purchased in the back. The overall plan is to look at the
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circulation, the flow of traffic, the movement into the various existing
communities, and the issues and problems with the triangulated area.
Member Daugherty stated that the block between Washington and the
triangular section can get really bad. Mr. Alvarez stated that this
particular plan would address those types of issues. One of the things
that will improve the circulation in the area is our plan to move the
existing driveway on Washington (Casey's) further south to allow
additional time for people to slow down and make that turn. The
opening in the median along Avenue of the States, which serves the
shopping center, Casey's, and Country Village, would be blocked off.
There will only be right-hand turns out of the two facilities, which will
avoid all the conflicts in this situation. A full access intersection is
proposed for the shopping center and the fire station, which will allow
a left-hand turn from the fire station towards Palm Desert Country
Club. Public Works' staff has had a chance to review this
configuration and believe that it is a positive step toward addressing
the future needs.
Member Benford asked if there was a proposed completion date. Ms.
Walker replied that she did not have a completion date. Mr. Alvarez
stated they would come back to the Committee when they have more
of a preliminary design and provide them with a construction estimate.
Member McMillen asked if the senior units were for purchase or
rental. She was advised that they were rental units.
Mr. Yrigoyen suggested that Member Daugherty raise the question of
her traffic concerns again in the future and direct it to the law
enforcement and the City's traffic people.
B. UPDATE ON COUNTRY VILLAGE APARTMENTS AND CASEY'S
RESTAURANT
Refer to Item A above.
C. UPDATE ON PALM DESERT COUNTRY CLUB MAINTENANCE
FACILITY
Mr. Case introduced Mike Abee, one of the CEOs of Paradigm Golf
Group, Inc., the new management company that was hired to manage
the Palm Desert Country Club. Mr. Abee and his partner are
responsible for the overall operations of the Palm Desert Country
Club.
Mr. Case asked if the Committee members had received a copy of a
letter that had been sent. Mr. Yrigoyen explained that the letter had
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been received about an hour ago, so it was not included in the packet.
Mr. Case provided the Committee with a summary of the letter's
contents and stated he would follow-up at the next meeting.
Mr. Case addressed the outstanding items, namely the long-term
future location and completion date for the maintenance facility, which
were previously discussed with the Mayor, a couple of
Councilmembers, City Manager, and City staff. There were four or
five items that had not been completed.
The first one is the golf cart street markings. He reported that the
drawings and mylars were completed, and that the mylars had been
submitted to the City. He didn't think they had been signed, but once
signed and approved, they will be able to mark the streets.
Mr. Case stated that there is a temporary wood enclosure around the
well on 17. A five-foot high brick structure has been installed around
it. The landscaping, berm, and desertscape around that structure
have not been completed because they were completing the
overseeding and concentrating on opening the golf course. The golf
course was opened about a week ago. The desertscape and berm
around the well on 17 should be done within the next month or so.
Mr. Case reported that they had submitted plans to the City on the
continuation of the block wall along the maintenance facility entrance
at the 14 tee box next to the city park, alongside the Peterson
residence. Unfortunately, when they were ready to pull the permit,
City staff recognized that there was an SCE easement and an Edison
box. We were no longer able to do what we had planned. The Edison
box cannot be moved because it is a permanent underground
structure, so we are restricted past that point with the width. We will
get together with Mr. Peterson, figure out a solution, and then come
back to the Committee and the City.
Mr. Case stated that they were asked to block the view of the
maintenance facility from a couple of the residences next to the
Petersons. They agreed to put some hedges behind the 14th tee box,
but unfortunately were not of very good quality and did not survive.
The nursery has agreed to replace the hedges, and this should be
done within the next couple of weeks.
With regard to the permanent maintenance facility, Mr. Case reported
that they finally have a site plan that was either emailed to Lauri
Aylaian this morning or would be sent this afternoon. This is just a
starting point; there is not a lot of detail. He explained that he had the
engineer figure out the logistics of turning and parking, and how it
would fit with the existing temporary one. We will work with the City to
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figure out how to make it more detailed. We realize there is still a lot to
do before we are at a point when we can come to you or the citizens.
We are a bit behind in what we had hoped to get to City staff, but the
economics has dictated how we proceed. Our business is down, and
honestly, our focus has been on getting the golf course open and
getting it in the best shape possible. We have not forgotten or tried to
shirk any of our obligations or duties. Now that the golf course is
open, we will be able to turn our attention to those things. He
apologized for the delay.
Member Benford wanted to know the reasoning behind the
management change and what can be expected from this
management company. Mr. Case replied that the first management
company was really a small operation and had no real presence in the
desert. They did a good job for a year and a half, but were not a long-
term operator. Once the kinks were out, we brought in a professional.
These folks have managed the Cimarron, Woodhaven, and clubs in
Arizona. They have a common scale that we can utilize.
Member Benford asked about the membership. Mr. Case replied that
they add members, but they lose some. There are about 12 of the 54
homes left to sell. We are currently building the 30th through the 35tn
Member Benford asked if the golf course rates would remain about
the same. Mr. Case replied that the daily rates would be pretty much
the same.
Member Benford stated he had a question from his wife. He explained
they have new neighbors that are near the No. 1 green. Three
teenage boys and other kids are out there nightly in the sand traps
hitting balls, and they are hitting the balls toward the houses. His wife
called, but it seemed as though they did not particularly care. Are
there any regulations? Should we or should we not be calling about
these issues?
Mr. Case replied that they should call. Mr. Abee is going to be
appointed as the community liaison for that area. He reported that
they had a young kid out on the tee last week, and Mr. Abee had met
with his father and told him it was the last warning. The next time the
Sheriff would be contacted, they would be cited, and they would have
to pay for any damages. The number will be distributed to the
community. If they do not do as management asks, then we will take
the next step.
Member Daugherty stated that it is usually between 4:30 p.m. and
dark when people come out and misuse the golf course. There was
no one to call last year. We really don't want people doing that, but
there was no one to call because it was closed. Mr. Abee explained
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that they are trying to put together a more comprehensive plan and
get the information to the neighborhood on how to communicate. One
of the problems is that after 6 p.m. the golf course is locked, and he
does not have access to the golf course. We rely on the neighborhood
residents to find out where the persons live. It is very difficult to get
someone for trespassing. What's really important is to figure out
where the people live so that we can approach the parents or those
residents, talk to them, and officially send them a letter. Those are
the steps the police have advised us to take. It really has to be policed
from within, such as a neighborhood watch program.
Member Benford stated that if it is a situation where the kids are
actually hitting balls into the houses causing damage, then for sure
call the Sheriff. It is very important for everyone on the Committee to
call in when they see infractions around the City, such as motor
homes and trailers parked for a long time, etc.
Phyllis Harkins, Community Association Manager for Palm Desert
Country Club Association, directed a question to Mr. Case. Numerous
complaints and calls have been received from residents about homes
in the Michigan and California area, specifically backyards. When
violation , letters are sent to those homeowners regarding their
backyard violations, we receive comments about the mess at the
storage unit and the dust bowl. She wanted to know where they were
with the dust bowl, and if residents were going to be shoveling sand
out of their swimming pools all winter again like they did last year. Her
understanding was that it was going to be coated or watered, but she
had not seen it watered. Mr. Case replied that they do have sprinklers
and they are turned on when it starts blowing. Mr. Abee added that it
is watered every day.
Ms. Harkins stated that it is very difficult for the Association to enforce
homeowners' backyards, when they are complaining about the
maintenance facility. She added that the Association writes up the
homeowners for violations. Mr. Case stated that they do have refuse
from the golf course, but that it gets dumped as fast as they can get
the company out there.
Lauri Aylaian reported that the City's Code Enforcement staff has
been going out there regularly when calls are received. In the past,
the Palm Desert Country Club has gone out and installed irrigation to
keep the dust down, which was one of our concerns. She asked
Committee members to contact the City, as well as Palm Desert
Country Club, if they see blowing dust or accumulation of green
waste, so that we can work with you to make sure that it gets done. It
has been an issue in the past, but I think that things are getting better.
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Mr. Case stated that they have a contract with one of the local
providers for those bins, but because there are 130 golf courses that
are overseeding right now, it is difficult to get a bin and to get them out
there. We have been calling them for a week and finally got a hold of
them. They will be out there tomorrow. It is difficult to get them out this
time of year.
Member Benford thanked Mr. Case for being so gracious at their
meetings and for providing updates to the Committee.
Mr. McCarthy stated that the Code Enforcement people have been
surveying the course, and at their last walk-through the condition was
pretty good.
D. UPDATE ON GOLF CART CIRCULATION PLAN
Discussed under Item C above.
X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON/MEMBERS
Member Benford wanted to know if the City was divided into districts
because Councilmembers Kelly and Spiegel were always at the
meetings. Councilmember Kelly replied that the City is not divided into
districts, but that Council representatives are assigned to different
committees and commissions. Councilmember Spiegel and I have
always been the members assigned as liaisons to the Committee. At
the beginning, we both had an interest in Project Area No. 4.
Councilmember Spiegel added that when the commercial center
(formerly part of the County) was taken over by the City, there were
redevelopment dollars coming forth, and they wanted to make sure
that they were spent the way the residents wanted them to be spent.
B. AGENCY BOARD LIAISONS
Councilmember Kelly asked what was holding up the landscape at
California Villas. Mr. Alvarez replied that they are going full force with
the exterior renovation of the desert landscaping and parking lot.
Councilmember Kelly stated that he had noticed that some of it was
done, but the south end is bare and he had not seen anybody working
there. Mr. Alvarez explained that the project is being phased in order
to coordinate with the existing residents. The remainder of the project
will be completed by the end of December.
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C. PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON
None
D. STAFF
October 20, 2008
Dave Yrigoyen announced that the Committee's November meeting is
scheduled during the week of Thanksgiving and the December
meeting is scheduled during Christmas. Staff would like to send out
cancellation notices for those meetings, and have the next meeting in
January. This would allow the Committee members to schedule their
vacations accordingly. Member Ash pointed out that the January
meeting falls on the Martin Luther King holiday and the February
meeting falls on Presidents' Day. Perhaps the Committee should
meet in March. Councilmember Spiegel suggested that they could
always change the date; it all depends on what is on the plate. Mr.
Yrigoyen explained that the Committee has listened to everything that
is on the plate. If the Committee wishes to have specific questions
answered, then a meeting would be scheduled.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
The next meeting is scheduled for November 17, 2008, at 3:00 p.m.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 3:45 p.m.
Maria Hunt, Recording Secretary
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