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PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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RACHELLE KLASSEN, CITY CLERK
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MARIA HUNT, SECRETARY TO ACM REDEVELOPMENT
APRIL 23, 2009
SUBMISSION OF MINUTES FOR THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY
COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4
Attached is a copy of the approved Minutes from the March 16, 2009 meeting of the
Project Area No. 4 Committee.
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PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR
PROJECT AREA NO.4
MINUTES
March 16, 2009
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Fred Benford called a regular meeting to order on Monday,
March 16, 2009, at 3:05 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Charles Ash
Fred Benford
Jane Daugherty
Robert Duncan
Roberta Grubb
Kelly Litecky
Javier Lopez
Douglas Luhring
Susan McMillen
Also Present:
Martin Alvarez, Redevelopment Manager
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Planning
Heather Beck, Project Coordinator
Russ Campbell, Planning Commissioner
Mark Diercks, P.E., Transportation Engineer
Dave Erwin, City Attorney
Phyllis Harkins, Palm Desert Country Club Association
Maria Hunt, Recording Secretary
Justin McCarthy, ACM Redevelopment
Aria Scott, Senior Financial Analyst
Lt. Andrew Shouse, Palm Desert Police Department
Dave Simmons, Palm Desert Country Club
Robert Spiegel, Councilmember
Dave Yrigoyen, Director of Redevelopment/Housing
CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4
MINUTES March 16, 2009
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Benford distributed pictures that he had taken on March 16 of
the SCE markings on the street. He stated that six months ago, SCE and
Verizon came out, tagged the area, then came out a couple of days later,
worked on it, and completed it. The pictures show the graffiti and one
where homeowners had removed the graffiti. He stated that Ms. Scott had
reported at the last meeting that the utilities were to remove the markings
when the project was completed. Chairman Benford stated that in his
opinion they are offenders and should be held accountable. It has been
there for six months, they have done absolutely nothing to clean it up. He
pointed out that the markings shown in the picture (bottom right) have
been there several years. Chairman Benford stated that Edison and
Verizon should be held accountable, just as taggers are held accountable.
Member Ash stated that he objected to the term "graffiti". He stated that it
is not graffiti because his definition of graffiti is something that somebody
goes out and sprays on the wall. This was done by the utility companies to
mark the location of their utilities. Chairman Benford requested that
"graffiti" be referred to as "markings" in the minutes. Ms. Aylaian
suggested that this matter be referred to staff, and that it be placed on the
agenda for the next meeting. Staff can contact Edison, look into this
further, and report back at the next meeting. It was suggested that an SCE
representative attend the next meeting.
Member Daugherty reported that she had received a letter from Edison
regarding energy use. Since the City's name is on it, she thought it would
be a good idea to have an SCE representative at the next meeting to
discuss the letter.
Ms. Phyllis Harkins, PDCC HOA Manager, reported that the Board
President of PDCC HOA, wanted to convey to Mr. Alvarez that they did
not have one single complaint about the deconstruction of the Country
Village Apartments project. The project was recently begun, and it is
amazing how quickly it has been done. The contractor has done a great
job. There has been no noise or dust.
Chairman Benford asked Mr. Simmons to provide the Committee with an
update on the Palm Desert Country Club. Mr. Simmons stated that the
golf course is in better shape; the summer grass is starting to come back;
the greens are in good shape; and play has been up. They will be ready
to start marking the streets for the golf cart travel path as soon as the
stencil is received from the City. The on -course directional signs have
been ordered and should be delivered this week. His understanding is that
the City will install the actual cart crossing signs on the street. They have
had some on -course problems with kids at night near the Joe Mann Park.
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They have removed a lot of old growth, namely leaves, oleanders, olive
trees, and bamboo, in an attempt to eliminate the places where they can
hide and party.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE
FOR PROJECT AREA NO.4 MEETING OF JANUARY 29, 2009.
With Committee concurrence, the Minutes of the meeting of
January 29, 2009 were unanimously approved.
V.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
VI.
NEW BUSINESS
None
VII.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII.
OLD BUSINESS
None
IX.
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
A. REPORT ON THE BROWN ACT
Dave Erwin, City Attorney, provided a refresher on the Ralph M.
Brown Act. It is the open meeting law in California. The Brown Act
requires that all public agencies conduct all of their business in the
open with some very limited exceptions. This Committee is subject to
the Brown Act, meaning that your agendas are posted 72 hours
ahead of time. The Committee is required to conduct their meetings
in the open. If you are going to make a decision on the items that you
discuss in the meeting, you are required to hear from the public first
before you make that decision. In addition, if there are items to be
added to the agenda, it requires a 4/5ths vote of this body to place the
item on the agenda for this body to consider. Before you can discuss
the item, 4/5ths of you must agree that it goes on the agenda. It is
probably unlikely that this Committee would be involved in any closed
sessions. Closed sessions generally are held only for limited
purposes, such as litigation, threatened litigation by someone outside
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the city, anticipated litigation by the City against somebody else,
personnel matters, and matters dealing with public safety. Typically,
the Council is the only one involved in closed session items.
Basically, the Council is the decision -making body.
The Brown Act has been amended, and basically the amendments
deal with what is a meeting. It used to be that if three members of the
Council got together and decided something outside of the meeting or
were talking about it and driving a concurrence that was a violation of
the Brown Act subject to criminal penalties. It has been amended to
make it stricter. There does not have to be a concurrence of the
Council. In fact, if three members of the Council were to talk but not
arrive at a concurrence about something that is within their
jurisdiction, that is a violation of the Brown Act. His recommendation
to the Council is going to be that they not talk to each other about
items before them, except in a Council meeting. He believes that the
interpretation of the District Attorney or the Attorney General will be as
strict. He does not want the Council or this body involved in anything
that would be in violation of the Brown Act because it is a criminal
penalty.
would caution you in discussing any matters before this body with
any of the other Committee members. Certainly one or two may talk
about it, but don't go any further than that. I would also caution you
about the use of computers. Many people hit "Reply to All" when they
receive an email. You need to know who you're sending it to because
you may have violated the Brown Act by conveying something to a
majority of your body, particularly if you get into blogging and different
things like that where opinions or thoughts are being conveyed. It is
an area that is going to be looked at even more closely with the
current amendments to the Brown Act. I don't anticipate any violations
here, but I want you to know if there is a concern, please give me a
call if you have something that may create a problem. The best thing
to do is find out if it will create a problem.
Mayor Spiegel asked Mr. Erwin to speak on the article that was in the
paper. Mr. Erwin stated that the Council would be receiving a
memorandum from him regarding that matter. The newspaper and I
disagree with what is required to be reported out from a closed
session. Their position is that the City Manager's contract was a
determination of salary that needed to be placed on an agenda and
voted on in a public meeting. There is another provision in the Brown
Act where the City Council can employ and appoint a city official, and
all that needs to be done is report as an action out of closed session
and a vote. It was reported out on January 22, and it was approved by
unanimous vote. His recommendation to the Council is that this
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argument doesn't need to be carried any further. He will request to be
put on the agenda and let the Council vote on it.
Mayor Spiegel stated that the Council had unanimously agreed to hire
John Wohlmuth as the City Manager. He was given the job of offering
it to him at the salary that the Council agreed upon. It was strictly
between Mr. Wohlmuth and himself. I offered it to him and he agreed
to it. The City Clerk drew up the contract and Mr. Wohlmuth was
required to report out that he had accepted. At this point, Mr.
Wohlmuth was in the hospital. It was reported out that he had
accepted, he signed it, and the Mayor signed it. We did not try to hide
anything. His contract is a public document. Anybody can go in and
ask the City Clerk how much we make, and she is required to provide
the information. The Desert Sun reporter did that and reported how
much he was making and that he had been hired.
B. UPDATE ON PALM DESERT COUNTRY CLUB UTILITY
UNDERGROUNDING
Arla Scott reported that plans are complete for Phases 1 and 2.
Verizon and Time Warner picked them up. It will take approximately
sixty days for them to do their part. Phase 3 should be to Verizon and
Time Warner within three weeks. Phase 4 is fifty percent complete.
Member Ash asked about the estimated date when they would have a
figure so that they can provide to the residents. Ms. Scott stated that
they do not have a time frame.
C. UPDATE ON COUNTRY VILLAGE DECONSTRUCTION PROJECT
Martin Alvarez, Redevelopment Manager, introduced himself and
Heather Beck, Project Coordinator, who is directly responsible for the
deconstruction of the Country Village Apartments.
Ms. Beck stated she would be reporting on the processes of
deconstruction, as well as the progress to date. A power point
presentation was presented to the Committee which included
numerous pictures of the work in progress. Also, there were photos of
the existing apartments taken in 2008 before any work had begun.
The Agency also owns the adjacent vacant lot where the land debris
is being cleared. The first phase of the work was the contractor
localization. The next step was the removal of asbestos before
demolition could begin. While the asbestos contractor was removing
the asbestos on half of the site, the contractor followed behind
removing the items from the units. They were able to salvage a lot of
the materials, far exceeding our expectations. The Fire Department
conducted firefighting training for one week, which included 200
firefighters and paramedics.
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Once the asbestos was removed, the contractor began the
deconstruction of the units, which included removing lumber,
salvaging concrete, etc. The lumber was to be trucked to Mexico for
use in future buildings. All of the rebar and metals were removed
from the concrete and asphalt on the project. The crushed concrete
and asphalt will be used for road base on a future project. Scrap
metal and trusses were also recycled. The contractor was able to
reduce their recycling costs. The cost for recycling was about $10-
$20 per ton versus $40-$50 per ton for actual waste they had to throw
away. The green waste that was cleared from the vacant lot to the
south of the Country Village Apartments was to be sent to be chipped
and composted. We were able to use many of the refrigerators, some
of the AC units, and a large water heater on other Agency properties.
Our goal was to divert 75% of debris from the landfill. The contractor's
estimate at the beginning of the project was 80%. As of March 10,
81 % of the construction debris has been diverted. The projected
completion date is March 26.
Member Ash asked what the total acreage was for the project, to
which Mr. Alvarez replied that there were a total of 4.6 acres. It is
projected that the project will consist of 71 senior affordable housing
units. A half acre is dedicated to the future fire station.
Member Grubb asked if the City of Palm Desert was one of the first to
recycle all these materials. Mr. Alvarez replied that he believed it was
one of the first projects of this size in the Valley. Member Grubb
stated that according to what she has read, the City is one of the
leaders in the country for recycling and green energy. Mr. Alvarez
stated that staff hoped to use this particular process to get potential
credit for a future LEED certification on a new residential property.
This could be a component toward that process. Mayor Spiegel asked
Mr. Alvarez to explain LEED. Ms. Beck explained that LEED stands
for Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design. It is part of the
U.S. Green Building Council, a nationwide voluntary program to rate
the sustainability of a building.
Chairman Benford complimented Mr. Alvarez and Ms Beck on an
excellent presentation.
D. UPDATE ON COUNTRY VILLAGE SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT
Mr. Alvarez presented a site plan and elevations of what potentially
could go on this site. The project is located at the corner of
Washington and Avenue of the States, where Casey's Restaurant is
located. The plan is for the restaurant to remain and receive facade
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improvements, site improvements, new landscaping, parking lot
improvements, drainage, and ADA improvements. A half acre,
adjacent to the west, will be used for a future fire station. The
remainder of the site, which is approximately three acres, will
accommodate the proposed 71 senior affordable housing units. The
mix will consist of both single -story and two-story. The majority of the
units would be single -story to blend in with other residential uses
adjacent to the property. Circulation would be improved to
accommodate all three of these land uses and also to improve
circulation to the Palm Desert Country Club area.
Chairman Benford asked if there was a projected completion date on
the project. Mr. Alvarez stated that there is no projected completion
date. We are going through the architectural selection for a consultant
to assist with the design development stage. We have gone through
the concept design, which includes the site planning and concept
elevations. Our next step is to hire an architect, work through the
actual design, and go through the entitlement process, which includes
the Architectural Review Commission, Planning Commission, and City
Council. The public will be included in this process. Staff will meet
with the homeowners' associations and the other members of the
community.
X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON/MEMBERS
Chairman Benford announced that there had been a fire at Coachella
Valley Rescue Mission. He thanked the Council members for the
City's donation of $25,000 to the Mission.
Member Ash mentioned that the work on the California Villas is almost
complete and they really look good.
B. AGENCY BOARD LIAISONS
C. PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON
D. STAFF
XI. ADJOURNMENT
The next meeting is scheduled for April 20, 2009, at 3:00 p.m. There
being no further business, the meeting/was adjourned
at
3:410' p.m.
Maria Hunt, Recording Secretary
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