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PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITIZENS' ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4
MINUTES
MARCH 8, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Benford convened the meeting at 3:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Fred Benford, Chairman
Roberta Grubb, Vice Chair
Terry Archer, Member
Russ Campbell, Member
Ron Crisp, Member
Jane Daugherty, Member
Phyllis Harkins, Member
Absent:
Berit Reistad-Daly, Member
Staff Present:
Martin Alvarez, Redevelopment Manager
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development
Justin McCarthy, ACM for Redevelopment
Ruth Ann Moore, Economic Development Manager
Catherine Walker, Senior Management Analyst
Also Present:
Jean Benson, Mayor
Robert Spiegel, Mayor Pro Tern
Roger Dash, Planning Commissioner
Sherry Barkas, The Desert Sun
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Member Crisp mentioned that there was a meeting held here at City
Hall last week regarding Redevelopment. He stated that Mr.
McCarthy gave the best presentation and congratulated him.
Mr. McCarthy thanked Member Crisp. He commented that a lot of
the credit goes to the history. Palm Desert has a very good story
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and there was a lot of work done by staff. He stated that a great deal
of credit goes to Mr. Carlos Ortega.
Member Harkins communicated that there is an ongoing traffic
situation in their community at the intersection of Warner Trail and
California Drive, a very busy four-way stop. She commented that
she happened to be on El Dorado and she saw some signs that say
"Watch for Bicyclists," and at that intersection they get a lot of the
Del Webb Sun City bike club people. She stated that they literally fly
through that intersection and do not stop, and she has witnessed a
of lot near misses. She was curious if perhaps down the road there
could be some analysis on the amount of bicyclists or if they know
there is a busy weekend of bicycle rallies, perhaps signs could be
put up to make drivers aware.
Member Harkins commented that they had a wonderful 50tn
Anniversary event at their association on February 26. There were
well over 200 people that attended. They have a fabulous DVD. If
anyone would like a copy of the DVD, please call the association
office.
Mayor Pro Tern Spiegel interjected that both he and Mayor Benson
were at the event.
Member Campbell commented that he does not know how much
help a sign will do for bicyclists. He has seen bicyclists make left
hand turns against the light, and has watched them go through stop
signs so cars need to be aware.
Chairman Benford stated that he is not sure if there is anything you
can do unless a police officer is there.
Mayor Benson suggested having COPS out there on a Saturday
morning. She noted that she will talk to the City Manager about it.
Chairman Benford communicated that the spots on the wall at
corner of California Drive and Fred Waring Drive are still there. In
addition, bricks have started to fall off.
Chairman Benford asked Mr. McCarthy if a straw poll was taken at
the last Palm Desert Country Club (PDCC) Undergrounding Project
Forum. He responded yes and is part of the staff report.
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IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS' ADVISORY
COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 4 MEETING OF
JANUARY 20, 2011.
Minutes of the meeting from January 8, 2011, were unanimously
approved as submitted and carried by a 7-0 vote with Member
Reistad-Daly ABSENT.
V.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
V1.
NEW BUSINESS
None
VI1.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
Vill.
OLD BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR REDEVELOPMENT
STAFF TO RECOMMEND DEFFERAL OF THE PROPOSED
PROJECT AREA NO. 4 UNDERGROUNDING
Ms. Walker reported that a third forum was held at the PDCC
Homeowners' Association that was attended by approximately 100
residents. An anonymous straw pool was performed with approximately
two-thirds of the residents voted to postpone or cancel the project. Some
comments on the cards were to defer indefinitely. There are three
motivating factors that staff believes has contributed to this: 1) The
depreciation of home value; 2) The depreciation in the overall income
levels; and 3) The golf course issue. Staff is requesting that the
Committee take a vote requesting authorization to go forward to request
for a deferral of the Undergrounding Project formally at the City Council.
Member Harkins inquired which portion of the two-thirds was in favor of
never doing it. Ms. Walker responded that it was almost an even split
between the two.
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Member Archer asked how long is staff planning to defer the project. Mr.
McCarthy responded until there is a consensus in the community, the golf
course issue has been settled, and the economy and home prices have
recovered. He noted that they could sit on the funds for a period of time,
but at some point they are going to have to expend them. Given what the
State is contemplating, the funds could go away completely.
Member Crisp inquired what happens if the Committee does not take an
action on this item. Ms. Walker answered that if there is no action, staff will
proceed as they have been.
Member Daugherty voiced that the Committee should go along to
deferring the project. The reason is if they go along the way they are and it
absolutely fails what is the chance of getting it back again. If they were to
defer the project, there might be a chance that it will happen sometime
down the line.
Vice Chair Grubb asked how much has been expended for this project.
Ms. Walker replied approximately $750,000.
Mr. McCarthy interjected that part of the amount is for the design, which
the design has shelf life. Staff would have to get the project re -estimated
in terms to what the pricing would be. He noted that interest rates could go
up in the future.
Chairman Benford inquired if the $750,000 would be lost if the project is
not deferred. Councilman Spiegel responded not if the Committee votes
on it. If voted down and the community later requests to underground
again, they would have to pay the full amount.
Member Campbell moved to defer the Undergrounding Project.
Motion was seconded by Member Daugherty, and carried by 6-1 vote
with Member Harkins voting NO and Member Reistad-Daly ABSENT.
Member Harkins requested to amend the motion to have a time period.
Chairman Benford responded that a date is reasonable. He requested a
recommendation for a time period of the deferral. Mr. McCarthy responded
that it is the Committee's preference; possibly 24 to 36 months.
Mayor Pro Tern Spiegel recommended two years.
The Project Area No. 4 Citizens' Advisory Committee, unanimously
moved to amend the first motion to defer the Undergrounding
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Project for a period of two years by a 7-0 vote with Member Reistad-
Daly ABSENT.
IX. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
A. UPDATE: PALM DESERT COUNTRY CLUB GOLF COURSE
(Catherine Walker, Senior Management Analyst)
Ms. Walker reported that there has been no change with the golf course.
The property is currently being marketed for approximately $2.5 million.
She noted that the Code Enforcement Department is periodically
inspecting the golf course to mitigate any potential health and safety
issues.
Member Archer mentioned that one of their board members was
contacted by a realtor who expressed someone was interested in
purchasing the club, and wanted some input from the association.
Member Harkins stated that the association received permission from the
bank allowing them to go onto the course to investigate any complaints.
They found that residents from the association were dumping clippings on
the golf course.
B. UPDATE: PALM DESERT COUNTRY CLUB UTILITY
UNDERGROUNDING (Catherine Walker, Senior Management
Analyst)
The undergrounding was discussed under Old Business.
C. REDEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION (Ruth Ann Moore, Economic
Development Manager)
Mr. McCarthy noted that some may have already seen the presentation.
Ms. Ruth Ann Moore introduced herself and gave the Redevelopment
presentation. At the end of the presentation, Ms. Moore encouraged the
Committee to contact their elected state representative to keep local tax
dollars local.
Vice Chair Grubb inquired what is the percentage of money going to
schools. Ms. Moore explained that if the Redevelopment Agency (RDA)
were to dissolve, funds would go to the State and the State would use the
funds for education, health care services, and the courts.
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Vice Chair Grubb voiced that her concern are the schools. Mr. McCarthy
stated that the real beneficiary is not going to be the schools. It is going to
be the State. Initially the State would take the money and allocate funds
for services the State is responsible for with a portion going to schools. He
commented that the State of California basically spends everything it
receives, and does not plan very well for the future. Mr. McCarthy stated
that in the last 24 months RDA has sent approximately $30 million to the
State. The funds came out of Project Areas 1, 2, 3, and 4. Those were
local property tax dollars that were sent to the State of California. RDA has
also sent another $10 to 20 million of General Fund money that is
suppose to come from the State that the State has held back. He made
clear that the funds are being pulled out from the local economy, and it is
really being done to defray expenses of the State. That is who the winner
is in this endeavor.
Vice Chair Grubb expressed that RDA has built a magnificent City, but
feels that the property taxes should be directed to schools for a couple of
years.
Mr. McCarthy explained that this is not new that the State wants to raid
local government. The question is do you want to keep the revenues
locally? Do you think your local representatives would use the funds to
benefit your community more than the State would? This is the issue.
Vice Chair Grubb suggested changing the pass -through contracts so that
more money goes to the schools. Mr. McCarthy responded that the City is
already passing through to the schools more that it is required to do so
under existing law.
Mr. McCarthy noted that the State has approximately 235,000 employees,
and to his knowledge he has not seen the State do any restructuring as he
has seen in the local and county levels. There are thousands of people
that have been laid off, including fire and police personnel in some areas.
Mayor Pro Tern Spiegel interjected that last year the people of California
passed Proposition 22, which the State cannot take money from cities.
The State is trying to destroy something. They might win and they might
not; it is going to be a tremendous legal fight.
Chairman Benford commented that the City of Palm Desert has done a
great job fiscally compared to other cities in California.
Mr. McCarthy stated that the Governor had it right 25 to 30 years ago, and
that they have to remember that we are on our own.
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X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON/MEMBERS
B. AGENCY BOARD LIAISONS
C. PLANNING COMMISSION LIAISON
Mr. Roger Dash introduced himself. He was recently appointed to the
Planning Commission, and as a result of being on the Commission, he is
now the liaison for the Project Area No. 4 Committee.
The Committee congratulated Mr. Dash.
Mayor Benson explained that Mr. Dash took over Ms. Schmidt's position
since she was not reappointed.
Mr. Dash added that he was on the Housing Commission.
Mayor Pro Tern Spiegel mentioned that he was also on the Parks and
Recreation Commission.
D. STAFF
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Upon a unanimous motion by the Project Area No. 4 Committee, the
meeting was adjourned at 4:04 p.m.
Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secre a%y
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